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  1. 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Range / Mileage EPA Figures Published

    I found some more data from the EPA test results. It looks like the electric city range in the test was 22.85 miles and the highway range was 21.0. It also confirms that the tests were performed in "Hybrid" mode without max regen. Another interesting note is that there is a release date of...
  2. 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Range / Mileage EPA Figures Published

    Some of the test data for the 4xe can be found here in the latest list: https://www.epa.gov/compliance-and-fuel-economy-data/data-cars-used-testing-fuel-economy Details about how vehicles are tested can be found at: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml There is also a linked...
  3. What do you think about the reduced electric range?

    Good question @Jeeperz Kreeperz. MPGe or miles per gallon gasoline equivalent is the measure of the distance one can travel on the energy of one gallon of gasoline. The EPA standard uses 33.7 kWh for the amount of potential energy of one gallon of gasoline. So basically the 49 MPGe ratting is...
  4. What do you think about the reduced electric range?

    With a 15% reserve on a 17.3 kWh battery the math of the 21 mile electric range actually works out with the 49 MPGe ratting. 17.3 x .85 = 14.705 kWh of battery for electric driving. 49 ÷ 33.7 = 1.454 mi/kWh 14.705 x 1.454 = 21.38 mi I always questioned the 1% reserve statement that I have seen...
  5. What's the hold up? Let's speculate...

    The good news is that the 4xe uses Samsung batteries. There are supposed to be 96 cells in the pack. I have actually been trying to find some specs on the Samsung SDI PHEV 2 batteries.
  6. Smaller battery than initially planned??

    They still have the 25 mile range estimate listed near the bottom of the Jeep 4xe page in the "Get the Details" section under the question "Does the Jeep 4xe come in a hybrid?" They may have just missed that reference. If I am not mistaken a 16KWH battery is the smallest battery that would...
  7. 4xe back seat mounting: same as standard JL? Compatible with Armorlite flooring?

    Here is the best shot I can find. I took it from the 4xe assembly video. It definitely looks like the current Armorlite would not fit without modifications. This was taken around the 2:35 mark from this video:
  8. 4xe ESS Battery question

    I would think since the 4xe has the 2.0L etorque with BSG(Built Start Generator) it shouldn't need the AUX battery for ESS. BSG should be responsible for the ESS function and doesn't need the AUX battery. The BSG on the regular etorque uses a separate 48v battery to operate and DC to DC 12v...
  9. Did Jeep add Windshield Wiper De-Icer?

    It appears that this is at least an option on the Cherokee. It very well could be just a standardized page that was copied from one owners manual to another. I have looked in the online PDF version of the 2020 JL and it wasn't there. It just seems odd that it made it into the 2021 JL manual...
  10. Did Jeep add Windshield Wiper De-Icer?

    I was looking at the 2021 Owners Manual and it mentions the following on page 63. I looked in the 2020 Manual and it was not present. It appears it was added for some reason but I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else. Windshield Wiper De-Icer — If Equipped The windshield wiper de-icer...
  11. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Yes, I have the VON. I have a copy of the POC from when the order was initially submitted. It doesn't have VIN as expected and it has a status of BA - Pending order. It was the general manager of the dealership that I worked with. It is a relatively large dealer so I would assume he knows...
  12. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Is it odd that my order placed on 2/2 according to Jeep Chat hasn't been updated in the system and can't provide a VIN?
  13. Federal Tax Credit for EV Charger

    About halfway down in the first link I posted it states: "Consumers who purchase qualified residential fueling equipment prior to December 31, 2021, may receive a tax credit of up to $1,000" More information can be found if you dig through some of the links on both of those pages but basically...
  14. Federal Tax Credit for EV Charger

    I was doing a little research on EV chargers and found this information. There is a 30% tax credit available for the cost of the EV charger and installation. It looks like it is currently good through the end of 2021. Obviously you should consult with a tax professional to know if you will...



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