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  1. I’m stuck at lake Powell (page Az)

    Perhaps, but which Wrangler has electronics they can trust? I am talking quality. I don’t have time to fuck with throttle and braking over obstacle. That’s like riding dinosaurs in the modern world.
  2. I’m stuck at lake Powell (page Az)

    Whatever, I have used in my 4Runner to extract myself from a similar situation. It works and that’s what’s important. I don’t give a fuck about its software coding and I cannot say that with any confidence about a Jeep product.
  3. I’m stuck at lake Powell (page Az)

    With all of the electronic gadgetry in a Wrangler they failed to develop a feature that works like Toyota CRAWL. Undoubtedly one of the best pieces of software that was ever developed for an off road vehicle. It would have got that thing unstuck easily.
  4. Reality Check for this Jeeper

    It’s normal today for sales people to not know anything about their stock. No excuse about they have a lot to learn. That’s bullshit. Every Jeep salesman I spoke with did not know shit about the wrangler. I knew much more. For perspective, when I sold camera‘s while in college I studied the...
  5. Just got home from Bronco event...

    Hopefully it spends more time on the road trouble free than pissing you off spending time arguing with a dealership about how poorly built it is for the 50k you shelled out.
  6. Backing Into Parking Spots: The Debate

    I never back in because I always park far, far away from others and as some have said I don’t want the rear blocked from putting my stuff in the back. I will pull straight through occasionally though.
  7. T-boned, $9K in damage, some questions (making sure repairs are good)

    Always add coverage for uninsured drivers. It’s never a good idea to trust humans.
  8. Supply & Demand has led to a $100K 392

    There is premium on the top models too. I have been seeing stock Rubicon models listed for 74K and 69k in my area. That’s nuts when you consider the build quality and dealership crap is not attractive.
  9. JL Wrangler vs New Ford Bronco

    I guess you’re not familiar with the section on this forum where people post their issues. It’s only got about 76k messages to read through. Perhaps Ford spent time there and got some ideas on what not to do.
  10. California Emissions for the 392??

    I know it’s hard to open a book. They are complicated to manage.
  11. Dealer Cussed me out over Survey!

    They are evaluated too. I have had service writers suggest that I give them an exceptional score. Others call me when I score them low. They deserve what they get.
  12. Today was the day - took possession of my new 4XE!! :)

    Don’t people drive Tesla vehicles in Houston? They are everywhere in Austin. Perhaps you focus your attention to things around you. People are driving Toyota Prius cars in freezing Colorado too. Go figure.
  13. How Many identical Paint Issues Equals a Paint Recall?

    How long has Ford been using aluminum panels and painting them without trouble?
  14. Extended warranty ? Yes/No From dealer or get a Mopar warrant online?

    I guess you see many vehicles stranded on the road with major transmission and engine failures in your area. Lots of bad luck around those parts.
  15. Anyone watch the Lite Brite Jeep Youtube channel?

    I don’t think their Jeep has anything stock any longer. The last episode I watched where they were installing a different sway bar disconnect setup Kevin said something to that effect.
  16. Bronco vs Jeep Wrangler mega thread

    It makes no sense to support a manufacturer that has no concerns about quality. PT Barnum type thinking.
  17. Local Dealers Don't Want to Play South Texas

    It seems normal for the dealerships to act this way in Texas, not sure why they are lazy about working a quote, but I got the same thing in central Texas. Dealers quote sticker or ignored me too.
  18. thinking of buying a new wrangler- any glaring issues/problems on the new ones?

    Sure, please read the hundreds of shitty QC problems and respond accordingly.
  19. MUCH BETTER THEN EXPECTED 29TH OUT OF 32

    I don’t know if you’re a dipshit or not, I do know quality when I see it though.



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