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  1. 4xE Order Status??

    I certainly hope that is not the case!
  2. 4xe purchase and 1150 mile drive home

    Hopefully your steering is fine. Part of it is definitely just getting used to it. I remember my drive home with my 2018 on the highway and having to constantly correct it. Once I got used to it and wasn’t actively thinking about the steering it was no longer an issue. It becomes more of a...
  3. Billet Silver - Gone

    FWIW Billet got locked out at the same time Gecko became available. Meanwhile 2 weeks later both my dealer and even JeepCares thought it was still available, but it was in fact already gone. It amazes me that these things aren’t even communicated internally. I ended up having to order my 4xe...
  4. Buying a 2018-2020 Jeep rubicon unlimited

    Yeah definitely price out a new one too. Used prices are through the roof. Supposedly the private party price on my 2018 is more than the purchase price I negotiated back in 2018. No idea how that’s possible, but hey, why not?
  5. Doors and freedom panels off with top still on.

    I run hardtop on and doors off most of the summer and never have issues. That includes multiple-hour trips on the highway. Can’t imagine it’s any worse with the freedom panels off. I guess the vent through the tailgate works well!
  6. 4xe mods -- what works/doesn't work from regular JL's?

    Unfortunately not. Oh how I wish there were! I keep a couple towels in the back for wiping down seats and mopping up anything in the back mats. For some reason I willingly choose to live this way. 😋
  7. 4xe mods -- what works/doesn't work from regular JL's?

    I have my doors off most of the summer, so I leave the plugs out so any rain can drain out. Hmm so yeah that lines up with your “Jeep thing” theory. LOL
  8. Can the math work out to justify a 4xe?

    I'm not really sure I recall seeing a lot of people on here saying that they think they are saving the environment with the 4xe? Heck, for me it's extra stupid because I won't even be plugging it in for the most part. Electricity rates are so high in MA that its about 1/3 more expensive to...
  9. Hitch Mount Cargo Carriers

    I have a MaxxHaul 70422 that I got from Amazon. It's low profile and pretty light because a lot of it is aluminum. I've actually been very happy with it as a product. The 70422 is the 48" model. They do have a 50138 model which is 60" and just under $100. One thing to keep in mind with that 60"...
  10. $2000 Price Increase For 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe

    To answer my own question from earlier, I finally tracked down the numbers. In case this helps anyone else... 4xe Rubicon - MSRP $53,505 / Invoice $51,436
  11. $2000 Price Increase For 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe

    Thanks. I have all of the previous numbers. I tracked down a window sticker and was able to confirm the MSRP for the Rubicon is $53,505 now, but I haven't been able to find the FWP price yet.
  12. $2000 Price Increase For 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe

    Hi all. Does anyone have the new base MSRP and Invoice numbers for the 4xe Rubicon handy? I know the ballpark based on previous posts, but was hoping I could find out the exact numbers. It's weird not being able to just pull them from the order guide. Thanks!
  13. Guide: Wrangler Order, Build, Tracking and Delivery Process

    Has anyone been able to place an order this week at all? My dealer says the build system has been down for days because they are completely replacing all of the existing build and package codes for everything. That sounds very odd.
  14. $2000 Price Increase For 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe

    Well that’s what sucks. It still is much cheaper… at least to lease. So I can’t even say “screw them I’ll just get an ICE Rubicon.” I‘d be paying over $100 more per month for the ICE version even after this 4xe price increase. I’m assuming that’s why Stellantis decided to do it?
  15. Max Regen "Braking " Status Light

    Oh sorry in my previous post I was referring to the 2 motor/generators in the 4xe. Trying to understand why brake lights wouldn’t be needed for max regen. Unless I misunderstood your post that I replied to. I’ve been know to do that from time to time. 🤪
  16. Max Regen "Braking " Status Light

    Are you saying that the negative g’s that result from the motor/generators switching into generator mode during max regen wouldn’t be enough to cross that European threshold?
  17. $2000 Price Increase For 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe

    Not sure about the Sahara, but for the Rubicon at least, this suddenly means it is no longer cheaper than the 2.0T when factoring in the $7500 credit. Interesting to see what that does to demand. There are many other reasons to consider the 4xe, but that was the one that made it a “no brainer”...
  18. BILLET SILVER Wrangler JL Club

    Apparently the build sheet from the other day was just a pending order. They tried to put in the actual order today and it’s rejecting Billet again. And now thanks to these delays I’m running into these sudden huge prices increases that just hit.
  19. BILLET SILVER Wrangler JL Club

    Wow really? My dealer sent me a build sheet dated a couple of days ago. I read something about the ordering system having some issues this weekend, but not sure how accurate that is. I had pinged @JeepCares a few days ago and they confirmed Billet was available and then when I let my dealer...
  20. 2021 JLU Waterproof cover

    What’s your floor mat situation? I don’t typically worry about rain with the doors off and top on, but I have the Mopar all weather mats with the drain plugs pulled. The rears don’t have plugs so they occasionally overflow but then I just pull em out for a bit and let the carpet dry. To me that...



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