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  1. Wrangler 4XE Drive Modes Analysis

    Thanks, Chris! Excellent post.
  2. First Jeep, good deal?

    This doesn’t seem like a “bad” price, but you should be able to get an otd price below sticker if you do the legwork. What is your sales tax percent where you live?
  3. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Wrangler Rubicon 4xe Sting gray Trailer/tow Dual Top Safety Cold Weather Floor Mats Ordered 3/19 Jeep Chat has been telling me that all the materials have been received and that it has been in this stage since the day after the order was placed. I chatted with them again yesterday and they...
  4. Owners show off your new 4xe!

    About 22ft. credit to @Chris Hall
  5. Help with getting a fair deal on a Moab

    How long has it been on the lot? There’s no harm in offering what you are willing to pay to see if they’re willing to bite.
  6. Nosey neighbor..

    Is he still in your driveway waiting for an answer?
  7. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    If you just ordered on 3/22 I’d say it’s a little early to say you’ll be stuck in D1 forever, my friend. Hang in there!
  8. 4xE Order Status??

    It wasn’t required for my Rubicon 4xe. Sting gray Dual top Cold weather Towing Safety Floor mats As others have said, remote proximity keyless entry will be nice to have.
  9. Which model to go with?

    You may want to check out the 4xe forum to look more into the fuel economy. You could definitely exceed 49mpg if you’re charging daily and taking shorter trips, but it only averages 20mpg when the battery is empty.
  10. Which model to go with?

    What kind of driving do you do? The 4xe may be good if you're driving under 100 miles a day because you can charge the battery. In addition you get much more HP and torque. If you're eligible for the $7,500 tax credit that also is a plus. Can't go wrong either way from what I have found in my...
  11. Order 4xe now or get one from Dealer?

    Everyone has their own way of looking at it, but for me, once I was able to get a local dealership to agree on 5% below invoice pricing it just made sense for me to order exactly what I wanted. I’m not paying for anything extra and I’m getting exactly what I want. I’m willing to wait a few extra...
  12. 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Range / Mileage EPA Figures Published

    It probably was a Sahara, and it’s fair to say that the Rubicon probably won’t have the same numbers “real world” as a Sahara. That being said, the EPA doesn’t always distinguish between trims. It’s likely that what’s listed will be the only EPA numbers we get for the Wrangler 4xe for 2021.
  13. Rubicon vs Sahara help me decide

    I was under this impression as well. There’s no option to add the alpine stereo to the Rubicon so I assume it’s standard. It would be odd for them not to offer it otherwise. Could be wrong.
  14. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Ordered a 4xe Rubicon on 3/19 Sting-gray Trailer tow package Cold weather group Safety group Dual top group
  15. 4xE Order Status??

    It says that the 20mpg is “gas only”. Does that mean E-SAVE mode? With the added weight of the motors and battery, it makes sense that it would get about 20mpg.
  16. 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Range / Mileage EPA Figures Published

    The EPA states, “After the first 22 miles, the vehicle will function like a regular hybrid and consume only gasoline...”. It makes it sound like you don’t have the option of running in hybrid mode from the start, or that hybrid mode uses all of the battery first then just uses gas. My...
  17. 4xE Order Status??

    Yep. I spoke with a dealership yesterday that said they still can't pull window stickers for their ordered units. Should be any day now I would assume.
  18. Future Battery Upgrade?

    Even if a bigger/more efficient battery became an option, what about the charging limitations? I'm no expert on this but I assume that the charging speed would remain the same?
  19. How much below MSRP for 4xe?

    I agree. But knowing the invoice prices up front is helpful when building one and working with dealerships on below invoice pricing. ;)
  20. How much below MSRP for 4xe?

    The last time I priced one out on it matched the invoice pricing sheets. They will show you invoice and MSRP.