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SecondTJ
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Correct.
No question the ZF-based 850RE is the best automatic ever put in a Wrangler, but I feel like you lose part of the driving experience in an automatic Jeep.
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I'm an old Grateful Dead fan and also a big Packer fan (go to Green Bay most every year for a game). Being as you're a Dead fan from Appleton Wisconsin, I think I'll take that as good Karma and a sign that the manual is the way to go!
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May be obvious, but easy to overlook. The Manual does not have remote start as part of the Cold Weather Group, and there is no way to control the heated seat auto settings in the menu system if you have a manual and the CWG. The manual also is easier to control the ESS, and doesn't have Auto Park.
For the conditions you mention, the manual is great. I personally enjoy the manual over rocks, you get a lower crawl ratio and the jeep just walks up most of the rocks, but doesn't sound like that's your use.
Auto: Biggest reason to get v6 auto is remote start (given your situation imo)
Turbo: Better umpf off the line, likely better gas mileage, but newer with more complicated parts that can go wrong.
All in all I don't think you can go wrong with any of them, but there are a few trade-offs.
melendez69
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Well, that should make the decision all the more easier. Isn't Aaron Rodgers..."clutch"?
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cosine
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thats what he said. we need details.
as to this topic i have the automatic and love it. smooth and helps out on the fuel economy. also as mentioned. it you are getting the cold weather group, the manual is out.
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Yes! My biggest worry about manual is that I've driven manual Jettas for the last 10 years and that the Jeep shifting would be too clunky. But I was amazed at how much it shifts like a car. It took a little bit for it to feel broken in, so I had some initial worries. But I'm now 7K miles in and am 100% happy I went manual.I'm an old Grateful Dead fan and also a big Packer fan (go to Green Bay most every year for a game). Being as you're a Dead fan from Appleton Wisconsin, I think I'll take that as good Karma and a sign that the manual is the way to go!
Also, do yourself a favor and get a custom grille like this one...
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It was tough to go with my manual and give up, what would have been, my first ever remote-starting vehicle. My wife claims hers is really nice here in Wisconsin. I wouldn't know, but I do recall the days of scraping my windshield every morning when I didn't have a garage to park in. Those days are gone, but it reminds me it could always be worse!
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Lol, that was a good one. Well done (and true).Well, that should make the decision all the more easier. Isn't Aaron Rodgers..."clutch"?
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Get the Auto, it's a Chrysler built ZF 8-speed tranny, probably one of the best tranny's available today. You won't be disappointed with it.
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Manual, it's a dying breed and more involving
It's the difference between 'batin and actually having sex basically
It's the difference between 'batin and actually having sex basically
fat_head
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Frankly I think modern automatic transmissions make manuals obsolete. Manual shifting was a thing because automatics were so slow, sluggish, unreliable and taxing the already emissions-choked horsepower.
Sure it's more expensive to repair, no doubt about it.
As for the "driving experience", I never hear those same people bemoaning their power steering and power brakes both of which all but eliminate the feel of what's happening beneath their tires.
Sure it's more expensive to repair, no doubt about it.
As for the "driving experience", I never hear those same people bemoaning their power steering and power brakes both of which all but eliminate the feel of what's happening beneath their tires.
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Well Tom, being retired also I look at it this way. If the manual is what you want, that's the one you should get. When you retire, it's time to play.
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In my past cars I greatly preferred stick (BMW 135i, Audi A3) unless the auto trans was something special, like my Audi S5 was. Audi's DSG transmissions are a blast. With the Jeep, I found that I loved the 8 speed auto with the V6 - lots of fun to drive and you even get a bit of fuel cut "fart" on upshift under power like the Audi. It's a really responsive box that doesn't take the fun out of driving and is an absolute godsend on difficult obstacles on the trail.
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