Bow or No Bow with 2" Mopar Lift?

[DanW]

Stretched out the jeep a little today and now the spring is rubbing on the bump stock just driving down the road. This is bullshit!!

That ain't good. Keep us posted on what they do with it.

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[Mattyp1214]

Stretched out the jeep a little today and now the spring is rubbing on the bump stock just driving down the road. This is bullshit!!

Was it bowing before??

 

[meflattery]

There was a noticeable slight bow prior to yesterday. However, it totally changed after taking it on some moderate trails (no skid plate, dif, or rock rail contact). The spring shifted about 1" laterally over the course of one day.

 

[PaulNY]

There was a noticeable slight bow prior to yesterday. However, it totally changed after taking it on some moderate trails (no skid plate, dif, or rock rail contact). The spring shifted about 1" laterally over the course of one day.

Just went out to look at mine as I have been driving on the lift for a week now. I haven't flexed it on trails yet, but after just normal driving, you can see the drivers side bump stop has now creeped closer to the spring. I am worried that if I do any off-roading at all, it will shift further and make contact like yours.

 

[AZCrawl]

Stretched out the jeep a little today and now the spring is rubbing on the bump stock just driving down the road. This is bullshit!!

No, bowing is normal!!!

 

[meflattery]

sketchhh

edit - what side of the front is this? drivers side ?

the bow is on the drivers side. This is the passenger side. One of these things is not like the other.............

 

[BoisetheCat]

the bow is on the drivers side. This is the passenger side. One of these things is not like the other.............

yikes. according to jeep tho that 1 spring on that particular side was designed to bow while the other 3 are meant to be straight.

 

[meflattery]

it may be designed that way, but I can guarantee it wasn't designed to rub the bump stock while driving down the road. Who doesn't love a brand new clanky Jeep?

 

[BoisetheCat]

it may be designed that way, but I can guarantee it wasn't designed to rub the bump stock while driving down the road. Who doesn't love a brand new clanky Jeep?

lol ya def sarcasm on my part. idk if they make this right. seems like there're slowing backing away from it.

im not a engineer, but how do you design 3 springs that are meant to be straight and 1 spring meant to bow? idk how that would work or why that would help??

 

[DanW]

yikes. according to jeep tho that 1 spring on that particular side was designed to bow while the other 3 are meant to be straight.

They'll make it right. They are now aware of it and are behaving as if they are collecting data while looking for a solution. They want me to take mine to the dealer and have them document it to start a case #. That's how things go when they are early in the process. I'm taking it in probably Friday. Unfortunately, I'm out of town all week, so it has to wait. In the mean time, it still drives great and doesn't appear to be moving, but I haven't taken it off road yet.

 

[BoisetheCat]

They'll make it right. They are now aware of it and are behaving as if they are collecting data while looking for a solution. They want me to take mine to the dealer and have them document it to start a case #. That's how things go when they are early in the process. I'm taking it in probably Friday. Unfortunately, I'm out of town all week, so it has to wait. In the mean time, it still drives great and doesn't appear to be moving, but I haven't taken it off road yet.

i really hope they do make it right for you and others. thats how it should/needs to be. thanks for all your help with all this new to me jeep stuff. jeepers are awesome!

edit - tbh it seems like that 1 spring just seats incorrectly than the others causing the bow. seems easy enough to fix for them? idk maybe its more than that but it doesn't seem like it?

 

[JeepCares]

okay great. thanks for clarifying and reaching out. however could you explain how if bowing is designed that way, why are the rear springs not bowing on the kit?

why is the bowing overwhelming only on one side of the front? You're currently saying that one spring, on one side, is designed to bow? that makes sense to you does it? please explain further. how does a bowing spring maximize performance? how does a bowing spring on only one side on the front maximize performance?

Why don't all 4 springs bow the same to maximize said performance? Do you see the holes here? im very sorry but i won't be buying your product as i know a lot of others on here won't as well. make it right, do what's right and perhaps i'll re-consider. i hate to leave a reply like this but in this case its deserved. sry

Edit - i'm merely responding to jeepcares questions here. it's not an invite for an argument from anyone other than jeepcares. i just want answers from jeepcares on the questions asked. seems reasonable enough if they want our business.
please don't hurl names at me or question my sexual identity. lol. i know how some interweb folks be, they be mad crazy
jeepcares if you can answer these questions well or answer in such a way thats logical i will not only take your word for it and accept it, but i will also place a order with quad for the 2in mopar kit. ball is in your court. @JeepCares

Hello BoisetheCat,
We do appreciate your desire for further clarification on this. However, as we are not trained technicians, we cannot speculate and are unable to diagnose your vehicle. We rely on our dealers to be our eyes and ears in the field, to look into all of this further. This is why we state if you believe what your experiencing is out of the norm - please send us a private message and visit a dealer so we can work on getting this documented. Additionally, we did not state this -"You're currently saying that one spring, on one side, is designed to bow?" We have only stated that a slight bowing is intentional. Again, if you believe what your experiencing is outside of the slight bowing, please send us a private message so we can gather details and look into this further.
Julie
Jeep Social Care Specialist

 

[Johnlm007]

Hello BoisetheCat,
We do appreciate your desire for further clarification on this. However, as we are not trained technicians, we cannot speculate and are unable to diagnose your vehicle. We rely on our dealers to be our eyes and ears in the field, to look into all of this further. This is why we state if you believe what your experiencing is out of the norm - please send us a private message and visit a dealer so we can work on getting this documented. Additionally, we did not state this -"You're currently saying that one spring, on one side, is designed to bow?" We have only stated that a slight bowing is intentional. Again, if you believe what your experiencing is outside of the slight bowing, please send us a private message so we can gather details and look into this further.
Julie
Jeep Social Care Specialist

Hi Julie, Over the past 6 weeks or so, there have been many discussions within posts on this and other forums that suggest there is very likely an issue with the design or manufacturing processes associated with Mopar's lift kit. As an overall, my concern is not necessarily with the issue, but it is that Jeep has had ample time to gather data and summate a hypothesis, but Jeep has yet to 'officially' respond to the issue. All said, Mopar's after market sales division really needs to jump on this issue and provide damage control. Right now, it is not looking good for the home team! J

 

[Johnlm007]

I have a question that unfortunately might add to the drama. My dad always told me that when I come to him with a complaint, I should also come to him with a solution. So this might go down hill before the solution is available. For those of you who have NOT installed a lift kit on your new JL, what do your springs look like? Are they straight? I ask because if this is a design issue with the kit, such as, the seats of the springs are not properly formed to fit their mating surfaces, then that is just a design change and recall of any springs supplied with the lift kits. BUT, if this is a supplier issue (e.g. heat processing?) or materials issue (e.g. incorrect material or poor material quality?), and the same supplier manufactures factory OEM springs, than this issue might infect new builds as well. From what I have heard, the issue is very likely to be a lift kit design spring form issue specific to the Mopar lift kit. Likely lift kit engineering genius A did not obtain OEM specs from vehicle suspension engineering genius B; therefore the lift kit spring forms were incorrectly specified. All said, it is time for Jeep to mobilize their design engineering and supply line engineering teams to perform some due diligence and finally address this issue.

 

[DanW]

They (Jeep) are working on it. I'm early in the process, but they are interested.

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