digitalbliss
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Then lets say my advice was legal and leave it at that, consistent I might add with my responsibilities as a member https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/help/termsI gather from your answer that you are not a lawyer or you have understood why I asked the question - I was trying to help you avoid legal troubles.
“... it is generally illegal for a non-lawyer or unlicensed attorney to offer legal advice ...” - findlaw.com
So I guess my links to McDonalds v Liebeck wasn't a good enough example of how, given the true facts of this case, and how it was ultimately settle for nonsense value, demonstrates recent lack of awards in tort liablity, even when a manufacturer not only ignores safety claims by its customers that their coffee is too hot, but exacerbates the problem by not being willing to even pay Liebeck's relatively minuscule medical expenses--likely with an NDA (non disclosure agreement): all she asked for initially.Tell me , @Rahneld do you like Tool? because your posts remind me a lot of the first few lines of their song "Eulogy".
You still provide no proof. No case law. No articles. No nothing.
I think we're at an empass because you don't get it.Nice try at trying to deflect @Rahneld . If you can't provide evidence to back up your claims, make a lengthy statement about how everyone else must provide proof that you are wrong instead. Very political of you! That would be a much easier task if you hadn't already refered to existing case as the basis of your argument. Your claim is that the owners manual is the end all be all. Even if the manufacturer is currently and consistently producing many other documents (quick reference guides, supplemental manuals, operational videos, etc..). You are making statements as if it's a fact, yet you provide no proof. I on the other hand, am saying that I think it would be hard to lose a case when you are following directions from many of FCAs produced documents.
Sigh, we've been down this road many times already....you forget the important part that follows your statement above --"....each and everyone one of which, regardless of media form, manages to contain disclaimers to go to the owner's manual for complete details."Even if the manufacturer is currently and consistently producing many other documents
Here's fact. Maybe this will sink in. Don't follow the manufacturer's instructions and hurt yourself and your claim against them will be enormously legally diluted. The manufacturer told you to double check the owner's manual and use its guidance should it differ from the supplemental mediums you've provided.You are making statements as if it's a fact.
Let me tell you how you how that plays in court. You're called to the witness stand. Your asked if you followed the supplement. You answer yes. You're then asked to read the disclaimer on the bottom and asked if you followed that. If you didn't, you didn't follow the supplement you to claim to have followed. If you did, and found the owner's manual guidance differing then your actions were different from the guidance in either the owner's manual or supplement: meaning you went and did "your own thing" and are solely responsible for your choices.I on the other hand, am saying that I think it would be hard to lose a case when you are following directions from many of FCAs produced documents.
I wonder if anyone who can correct or affect this is reading any of this (or did they get lost in the legal arguments of some members on this thread?), or are we who got a message we can't order a hardcopy manual just SOL?I get the message "There are no manuals available for this vehicle".
I sent a PM to @JeepCares and they ordered a copy for me. The system would not allow me to order it no matter what browser I tried--it kept saying that no manual exists for my JLUR.I wonder if anyone who can correct or affect this is reading any of this (or did they get lost in the legal arguments of some members on this thread?), or are we who got a message we can't order a hardcopy manual just SOL?
I have a Case Mgr on another issue but in our communication I have been throwing this issue in too - so far just trying their suggestions without luck.
When I got my 2019, I couldn't order a manual either. I got on Jeep chat and they ordered it for me.I wonder if anyone who can correct or affect this is reading any of this (or did they get lost in the legal arguments of some members on this thread?), or are we who got a message we can't order a hardcopy manual just SOL?
I have a Case Mgr on another issue but in our communication I have been throwing this issue in too - so far just trying their suggestions without luck.
I have a physical version on the way but it's nice to have a digital one too, thanks for the link.Just got off of Jeep Chat and they ordered one up for my 2020 JLUR. She said it will take 15-20 days.
She also gave me a link for a digital version ...
https://msmownerassets.z13.web.core.../Wrangler/P110015_20_JL_OM_EN_USC_DIGITAL.pdf
Enjoy!
Can you post a pic that shows all of that jump start addendum? That is a significant bit of information IMO.Just got it in the mail.... Used the link and received it in less than a week.
How do you send a private message to JeepCares? I tried using the PM option on this forum, and I get an error message saying it can't be done...I sent a PM to @JeepCares and they ordered a copy for me. The system would not allow me to order it no matter what browser I tried--it kept saying that no manual exists for my JLUR.
Thanks for posting the photo. Mine arrived in the mail yesterday and I accidentally left the yellow addendum in the envelope and threw it away. Once I saw your post, I went and retrieved it,Just got it in the mail.... Used the link and received it in less than a week.