Diesel JL Wrangler specs officially announced

[kre62]

We all knew it was coming, but nice to see it in an official press release. New transmission to handle additional torque output, and the rumored 442 ft/lb of torque. Coming by end of year.

https://media.fcanorthamerica.com/newsrelease.do?id=20874&mid=4


September 1, 2019 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - The iconic Jeep® Wrangler – the most capable and recognized vehicle in the world – delivers unmatched off-road capability and is produced with more than seven decades of 4x4 engineering experience. Powertrain options include a 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6 with engine stop-start (ESS), 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6 with mild-hybrid e-Torque technology, 2.0-liter turbocharged inline four-cylinder engine with ESS and a 2.0-liter turbocharged inline four-cylinder engine with mild-hybrid e-Torque technology. Wrangler continues to offer a body-on-frame design, front and rear five-link suspension system, solid axles, electronic lockers and is one of the few SUVs to offer a six-speed manual transmission in addition to its available eight-speed automatic.

New for 2020:

• Wrangler features an updated powertrain menu:
  • Sport/Rubicon:
    • 2.0-liter ESS
    • 3.6-liter ESS
    • 3.0-liter EcoDiesel ESS (late availability)
  • Sahara:
    • 3.6-liter ESS (MTX only)
    • 2.0-liter with mild-hybrid eTorque assist
    • 3.6-liter with mild-hybrid eTorque assist
    • 3.0-liter EcoDiesel ESS (late availability)
• Wrangler Sport and Rubicon models now offer 2.0-liter turbocharged inline four-cylinder engine with ESS. The 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6 engine with mild-hybrid eTorque technology is now exclusively available with Wrangler Sahara models
• Diesel power will be offered in response to overwhelming consumer demand with a 3.0-liter EcoDiesel V-6 with ESS (late availability)
• Wrangler’s Advanced Safety Group now includes auto high beams when equipped with the
  8.4-inch Uconnect system with navigation
• Wrangler Sport now offers LED headlamps and fog lamps as optional equipment

Highlights:

• Jeep Wrangler’s 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6 engine delivers 285 horsepower and 260 lb.-ft. of torque, available with ESS or mild-hybrid eTorque technology, and is engineered to provide a broad torque band
• Available 2.0-liter turbocharged inline four-cylinder engine, available with ESS or mild-hybrid eTorque technology, delivers 270 horsepower and 295 lb.-ft. of torque
• Wrangler four-door models will offer the 3.0-liter EcoDiesel V-6 engine, rated at 260 horsepower and 442 lb.-ft. of torque, with ESS standard. A new eight-speed automatic transmission is standard and is designed to handle the increased torque output
• Available on Sahara and Rubicon four-door models, Sky One-touch powertop allows occupants to open or close the Wrangler’s roof with a push of a button. The Sky One-touch powertop can be used at speeds up to 60 miles per hour (mph)
• Best-in-class approach angle of 44 degrees, breakover angle of 27.8 degrees, departure angle of 37 degrees and a ground clearance of 10.9 inches help the Jeep Wrangler scale the toughest terrain
• Wrangler models feature lightweight, high-strength aluminum doors, hinges, hood, fenders and windshield frame, as well as a magnesium swing gate, to help reduce weight and boost fuel economy
• The capable driveline of the Sport and Sahara models include the Command-Trac NV241 part-time, two-speed transfer case, which features a 2.72:1 low-range gear ratio and next-generation Dana front and rear axles. In addition, an optional Trac-Lok limited-slip rear differential provides extra torque and grip in low-traction environments, such as sand, mud or snow
• The Wrangler Rubicon model features next-generation Dana front and rear heavy-duty axles, enhanced off-road rock rails and the Rock-Trac NV241 two-speed transfer case with a 4.0:1 low-range gear ratio. Wrangler Rubicon also includes electric front and rear locking differentials, a disconnecting front sway bar and 33-inch BF Goodrich KM All-Terrain tires, taking the Wrangler to the highest level of capability
• Wrangler Sahara models offer a Selec-Trac two-speed transfer case with full-time four-wheel drive and a 2.72:1 low-range gear ratio. This full-time two-speed transfer case is intuitive and allows the driver to set it and forget it, while constantly sending power to the front and rear wheels
• Jeep Wrangler’s signature features include iconic round headlamps, seven-slot keystone grille, trapezoid wheel flares, removable doors, exposed hinges with the Torx tool-bit size stamped into it, a fold-down windshield and innovative removable tops that allow the Wrangler to retain the brand’s iconic appearance and function
• Fourth-generation Uconnect system includes Apple CarPlay, Android Auto and the choice of a 7.0- and 8.4-inch touchscreen with pinch-and-zoom capability. A 5.0-inch screen is standard on Sport
• Standard electronic stability control (ESC), electronic roll mitigation, trailer-sway control, Hill-start Assist and brake traction control are among more than 75 available safety and security features

Model Lineup
For 2020, the Wrangler lineup consists of four models:

• Sport
• Sport S
• Sahara (four-door only)
• Rubicon

Available Exterior Colors:

• Bright White
• Hella Yella
• Granite Crystal
• Billet Silver
• Black
• Firecracker Red
• Punk’n Metallic
• Mojito!
• Sting Gray
• Ocean Blue Metallic
• Bikini

Available Interior Colors:

• Black
• Heritage Tan

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[ldstruckn]

about freakin time. I have been without a jeep for over two years now waiting on this thing.
I do have a heavily modded xterra pro4-x for overlanding but I miss my jeeps(ive had 6). Now to wait out the first few months of production and the typical jeep failures at quality control before ordering.

 

[Nihkole]

We all knew it was coming, but nice to see it in an official press release. New transmission to handle additional torque output, and the rumored 442 ft/lb of torque. Coming by end of year.

https://media.fcanorthamerica.com/newsrelease.do?id=20874&mid=4

I see that it still says late availability. Did I miss where it said by the end of this year (2019)?

 

[Nihkole]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28900236/2020-jeep-wrangler-diesel-info/

Here we go!

 

[kre62]

I see that it still says late availability. Did I miss where it said by the end of this year (2019)?

I got that from this article:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28900236/2020-jeep-wrangler-diesel-info/

I assume they have more info.

 

[kre62]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28900236/2020-jeep-wrangler-diesel-info/

Here we go!

Yep, exactly

 

[JLURD]

The Q4 2019 timeframe is not news. Jeep upper management have been quoting that timeframe for several months.

ETA:

https://www.tfltruck.com/2017/11/2019-ram-1500-jeep-new-diesel-v6-specs/

Disregard prior rant re gen2 vs gen3 power. It’s been almost 2 years since they announced gen3 HP/TQ figures and when the 1500 went to 480 lb-ft, the 442 looked like the gen2 numbers at first. Gen3 it is! Nice to know it’ll push 480+ with zero hardware.

 

[kre62]

The Q4 2019 timeframe is not news. Jeep upper management have been quoting that timeframe for several months. What is new is this bs 442lb-ft number. Let’s deconstruct that number for a minute. The Ram 1500 gen3 3.0 ecodiesel is rated for 480 ft-lbs using the same ZF 8AT as the rest of the FCA lineup. Now what are the chances that Jeep is using the same engine but magically hit the exact torque figure of the gen2 3.0? Probably less than Jeep cleaning out their stock of gen2’s on the wrangler because they had an unused oversupply when the GC and 1500 stopped selling with gen2’s during the EPA emissions investigation. Makes a lot of sense considering they have been able to (poorly) software flash that gen2 into EPA compliance and there’s no efficiency or torque war to fight like they have with the 1500. Given the low likelihood of FCA dropping a press release with a grossly inaccurate/out of date torque figure, there’s a significant chance Wrangler buyers are about to get hosed with a deeply inferior gen2 3.0, which will be magically updated to the gen3 when the supply of gen2 engines is gone. You can guarantee the JT won’t be getting gen2 hardware in CY2020. Such a joke if this proves true. If it is true, screw you Jeep/FCA and the horse y’all rode in on!

Its not uncommon for the same engine to produce varying numbers depending on application.

I doubt itll be gen2. We shall see

 

[JLURD]

Its not uncommon for the same engine to produce varying numbers depending on application.

I doubt itll be gen2. We shall see

ETA: You’re right. See my last edited post regarding correction.

 

[Nightking]

It's possible that car and driver just used outdated numbers in their article. I'll be curious to see what numbers FCA announces for the JLU when we finally get more concrete info from them. If they indeed do match the gen2 numbers and that's what they're actually doing, I'll be waiting for the gen3 to make it into the JLU for sure.

 

[Jeremi]

Previous Ram Ecodiesel was 240hp 420lb/ft. JL has the redesigned 3.0. The Pentastar makes different numbers in Ram and JL already, this tinfoil hat shit is laughable.

 

[kre62]

It's possible that car and driver just used outdated numbers in their article. I'll be curious to see what numbers FCA announces for the JLU when we finally get more concrete info from them. If they indeed do match the gen2 numbers and that's what they're actually doing, I'll be waiting for the gen3 to make it into the JLU for sure.

Look at the press release in my OP, its an FCA release that has the same numbers.

 

[kre62]

Previous Ram Ecodiesel was 240hp 420lb/ft. JL has the redesigned 3.0. The Pentastar makes different numbers in Ram and JL already, this tinfoil hat shit is laughable.

I agree, I think the JL has Gen3 for sure.

 

[Knee Deep]

The Q4 2019 timeframe is not news. Jeep upper management have been quoting that timeframe for several months. What is new is this bs 442lb-ft number. ....

A discard pile for the gen2 ecodiesels is interesting, but I don't think they'd opt for the usdm wrangler as the target for the discards.

It's mostly due to service logistics: at some point the gen2 engine supply will run out and they'll have to make a new set of service procedures for all their dealer service departments to have on file.

There are also probably better vehicles to discard to assuming there is some parts commonality between the A630 and the L630(eu-market). Hypothetically a situation like: "We have some A630s to get rid of. Lets just send them to Maserati since they were going to rebuild and re-tune the top end anyways."

The engine start/stop also should have a beefier starter motor to handle many more cycles, and that seems like it would make it less likely they'd introduce a gen2.5 just to get rid of old stock.

the 442 number could be any number of things:
* old info/typo

* down-rated to make the pentastar more appealing
Pentastar is almost certainly more profitable for FCA. With that sales volume, all R&D costs have long since been absorbed. Then there is the "learn to work on an uncommon diesel engine" for the service staff. I mean, they have to learn to do it for the odd ram ecodiesel or grand cherokee, but maybe only one guy has to know right now, and maybe he gets an extra 5 bucks an hour. Purely speculative, but in the confines of the logistical cost, entirely probable.

* down-rated to make the EPA cut
EPA has some weird rules for manufacturer fleets. Wrangler can be less aerodynamic and get worse fuel economy because the grand cherokee compensates for it. I can say with certainty that the EPA also does this with the efficiency of the windows in my house! I think trucks are still allowed to pollute more, a half ton might be allowed higher torque numbers because it's seen as a work vehicle.


Can anyone think of easy ways to identify if the engine is gen2 or gen3? Does compact graphite iron look different from the previous cast iron? IIRC The turbo is different, is that easy to spot? Since we haven't seen the gen3 in the flesh yet, there can't be anything concrete, but it would sure be nice to be able to confirm it before shelling out 60k on a new vehicle

 

[OilBurnerHoldOut]

Finally!!
The next big question for me is, what are the odds F.C.A will have one available for test drive at the national auto shows at the beginning of next year?

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