Thanks. That's helpful. Not nearly as fugly as it looked in the sneak-peak brochure.
There is no federal mandate for DRLs and little evidence to support their effectiveness in North American. If you want DRLs move to Canada lol We've had them since 1990. Personally, I think mandating amber turn signals for the rear of all cars is more important that DRLs. Auto high beams is entirely unnecessary, a convenience feature for the lazy and incompetent.
I’d be surprised if you see significant reliability issues with the diesel beyond DPFs dying (they’re consumable like any other filter). I don’t recall the last time a company had an engine delayed this long by EPA certification or otherwise. They’ve had zero rush to market and a frankly ridiculous amount of time to run the test mules into the ground. It’s also the second generation of an engine with some of the upgrades going toward prior reliability issues. If ever there were an engine to work from day one, the 3.0 certainly has the right pre-market conditions to do so.
ProTip: DPFs are certainly not consumable items. In fact, a replacement can run well over 7000 bucks depending on the make of car.
I have no doubt that the engine would easily meet the federal emissions requirements with no issues at all, as the previous gen still meets those requirements. Likely state emissions, i.e CA emissions are the issue.
This! A thousand times this! See @JeepCares ? I'm not the only one who thinks Wranglers should have amber turn signals in the N. American market. Please let the powers that be know that we want amber turn signals. No more combined brake lights/turn signals.
Hmm.. not been my experience on the two I have had it on. One being my 2017 RAM and the other a 2005 Grand Cherokee.
They definitely do look darker in the Rubicon pics than in in the Overland I posted, but Gladiator was never offered with the lighter "Heritage Tan" leather that came on 2018-19 JLs.
You make such a compelling counterpoint.
They're not orange though. They're actually clear and the LED turns amber when the turn signal is activated. There's a picture of the Euro-spec Wrangler taillights earlier in this thread. The red part of the break light remains red. Besides, lots of cars and trucks (e.g. new Ram 1500's) have amber turn signals. I don't think they're gross at all. For me it's a safety issue.
I fully agree, love the Jeep, hate the metallic red dash on the Rubi. Certain body colors come with a gray/silver dash. I'm waiting for the Sarge green paint to be available before I order and I'm really hoping it comes with the silver dash, and I'm guessing it will.Thanks to the OP for posting this great information on the 2020 Wranglers! Good stuff!
The dark saddle is actually quite nice. Further, I am *stunned* that a dealer is discounting a Rubicon-trim Gladiator (link posted in an earlier post). I thought for sure those things would be marked UP not down.
I was hoping for a few changes to the 2020's but sadly it doesn't appear it'll happen. I was hoping for an alternate dash color on the Rubicons (personally, I love the darked-out dash in the Altitude trim), or some different wheel & tire options on the Sahara and Sport S. I'm a Rubicon buyer on a Sport budget
