Jeep Recon to come with gas engine! (2.0 Turbo Hurricane likely)

[There’sOnlyOne]

I've said this since the first time I saw/read about the Recon. It's probably the future Wrangler, unfortunately. I'll be very surprised if it's not. It won't happen over night but I can definitely see a few years from now this being the new Wrangler platform. Doors off, off road capabilities, and "top less" with all windows out and an SOT type roof. I think our JL's will go down in history as the last of the "true" Jeeps

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[BXFXJeep]

I've said this since the first time I saw/read about the Recon. It's probably the future Wrangler, unfortunately. I'll be very surprised if it's not. It won't happen over night but I can definitely see a few years from now this being the new Wrangler platform. Doors off, off road capabilities, and "top less" with all windows out and an SOT type roof. I think our JL's will go down in history as the last of the "true" Jeeps

Once the removable top is gone, the Wrangler is dead, Recon becoming a Wrangler will also mean there is no 2 door, and that's the nail in the coffin.

The Recon would just be another souless SUV

Nothing can take a beating like a Wrangler, and still look presentable, and easily fixable.

 

[The Last Cowboy]

I've said this since the first time I saw/read about the Recon. It's probably the future Wrangler, unfortunately. I'll be very surprised if it's not. It won't happen over night but I can definitely see a few years from now this being the new Wrangler platform. Doors off, off road capabilities, and "top less" with all windows out and an SOT type roof. I think our JL's will go down in history as the last of the "true" Jeeps

I'm guessing, and that's all it is, that the Recon is heavily based on J70 R&D. Jeep has now wisely, and quietly chosen to keep the JL in production, at least for the time being. There are no next generation Wrangler teaser articles in the automotive press, no spy shots, no cryptic press releases from Jeep showing a slightly vague, partial profile, nothing. Nope, JL is going to be around for a few more years. Recon will see what the Jeep buying public gravitates towards. My guess is that Jeep already knows the answer. Recon will likely become the next Commander.

What will the next Wrangler look like, or be like? More than likely not the Recon. Will Jeep do a ground up brand new Wrangler? Who knows, my bet is that Wranglers now will be more evolutionary, the revolutionary. Even the JL is more of an evolution of the JK, than it ever was something totally new. And all the way up to the TJ, you could clearly see the evolution from the 1954 CJ5, and especially the 1976 CJ7. Wranglers are not cutting edge, never were, and never should be. And therein lies their appeal.

 

[Jocko]

I don't get it. It's just a pure ICE variant? What on Earth is the point of that?

For all of the 4xe shenanigans that have happened, I do in fact like the powertrain. I find electric-only quite enjoyable off highway. And I like the combined power on highway. So much so, in fact, that if we were talking more like a range extender for the Recon I might actually consider it (I am genuinely embarrassed to even say that).

I live in New England, so off roading opportunities are more limited. So its a bit easier for me to look at the electric power numbers of the Recon (and the fact that the doors still come off) and be slightly seduced. But the range is a joke. Nope.

I get that putting a range extender in is a huge lift from a packaging perspective, but it would solve a big issue that the Recon has. But if it's just an ICE Recon, I can't think of a single reason for anyone to buy one regardless of their priorities. Grand Cherokee drivers who wish their doors came off? Seems like a niche market. So confusing.

 

[The Last Cowboy]

Where is the public demand for a range extender (gas engine generator) EV? The Ram 1500 has one (no longer called Ramcharger) and Wagoneer offers one. Nearly zero public interest, or automotive press coverage. REPBs are a last minute attempt to make EV trucks and SUVs, which have quickly fallen out of favor, more appealing. The future of EVs is more fitting for economy cars than it is for trucks and SUVs.

Will an ICE Recon sell? Jeep hopes so, as the EV version is miserably failing in sales. This is an attempt to try to recover a massive cash dump of the R&D funds put into it. This is not just a Stellantis problem, it’s a problem for almost all vehicle manufacturers. The days of social credit, and SDGs are gone, and likely wont return. Corporations were rapidly spiraling towards bankruptcy trying to meet sustainability goals that could not be met. The damage was done and climbing out from that hole wont be easy for any manufacturing company. Especially when many of them were headed, and some still are, by people who were/are believers.

 

[Sean L]

Will an ICE Recon sell? Jeep hopes so, as the EV version is miserably failing in sales.

The EV version isn't even for sale yet!

 

[yokramer]

The EV version isn't even for sale yet!

Dont let facts get in the way of emotion

 

[The Last Cowboy]

It was supposed to go on sale in Feb/March. I was just going by what I read last about them. Wonder what's holding it up? Lack of orders? Lack of interest? No wonder I haven't seen on eon the road.

I just looked. They are producing them, just not for sale to the public yet. The Recon is expected to go into full production until 3rd quarter 2026. That is 2027 territory. That's a launch blunder for sure.

 

[Sean L]

It was supposed to go on sale in Feb/March. I was just going by what I read last about them. Wonder what's holding it up? Lack of orders? Lack of interest? No wonder I haven't seen on eon the road.

I just looked. They are producing them, just not for sale to the public yet. The Recon is expected to go into full production until 3rd quarter 2026. That is 2027 territory. That's a launch blunder for sure.

Par for the course... The 2 door JL was delayed for months in 2018. They were just blasting out Silver Saharas until they could get anything else out on the market.

 

[Ramboy]

Official: Jeep Recon will get ICE gas engine model

https://www.jeepreconforum.com/foru...ep-recon-will-get-ice-gas-engine-model.18778/

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Good fit, but I’ve often wondered how an I-6 twin turbo Hurricane engine would work/perform in a Wrangler Rubi. Lots of boost there!

 

[Ramboy]

Where is the public demand for a range extender (gas engine generator) EV? The Ram 1500 has one (no longer called Ramcharger) and Wagoneer offers one. Nearly zero public interest, or automotive press coverage. REPBs are a last minute attempt to make EV trucks and SUVs, which have quickly fallen out of favor, more appealing. The future of EVs is more fitting for economy cars than it is for trucks and SUVs.

Will an ICE Recon sell? Jeep hopes so, as the EV version is miserably failing in sales. This is an attempt to try to recover a massive cash dump of the R&D funds put into it. This is not just a Stellantis problem, it’s a problem for almost all vehicle manufacturers. The days of social credit, and SDGs are gone, and likely wont return. Corporations were rapidly spiraling towards bankruptcy trying to meet sustainability goals that could not be met. The damage was done and climbing out from that hole wont be easy for any manufacturing company. Especially when many of them were headed, and some still are, by people who were/are believers.

I’ve never been a fan of electric for a variety of reasons. My “range extender” is a 5-gallon container of gas onboard.

 

[Jocko]

Good fit, but I’ve often wondered how an I-6 twin turbo Hurricane engine would work/perform in a Wrangler Rubi. Lots of boost there!

Ooh either hurricane engine in a Wrangler sounds good to me. I'm just bummed about losing power once I leave the 4xe behind. And I'm definitely not man enough to rock a 392.

 

[Ramboy]

Ooh either hurricane engine in a Wrangler sounds good to me. I'm just bummed about losing power once I leave the 4xe behind. And I'm definitely not man enough to rock a 392.

I’ve seen some of the numbers on the I-6; 0-60 is in the 4-sec range like the 392 but that was a test in a Ram. I had a 392 for 6 months but I realized I went out on a limb price-wise and practicality-wise so I traded it in along with my 2018 JLU 2.0 for a 2025 comparable spec-wise JLU Rubi with the 2.0 turbo. I had the 2.0 since 2018 with zero problems and the performance pretty much hit the spot. The 392 was fun but everything on the road wanted to “race” me. I don’t go for that. So, I’m happy with the stable….for now!

 

[Ramboy]

There isn't an EV made with a ~10year RoI when you actually compare "apples to apples". Most are within loan-life, typically between 5-8, and that is based on previous low gasoline prices and also dramatically overestimates costs for things like tires and battery degradation. Real numbers are much lower - for instance my personal experience is our RoI for our family mobile is just over 2 years... That's before you account for how much nicer EVs are, period full stop.

As to gas prices being temporary - nah. The prices we have today are the new normal so you need to get used to it. Prices will never return to what they were 2020-2025. Cheap oil will become scarce sooner than you realize - and geopolitically friendly oil will get scarce much sooner. The actions of the past several months have completely reshaped the power dynamics of the middle east in a way where stability probably will not ever return. It's not impossible that prices will come down a little 2-3 years from now, but I wouldn't be too hopeful for that, and they will be temporary at best...

I’ve always said that if people buy more EVs because they perceive the cost of gas will go up that’s much better for us that drive ICE vehicles; it’s supply and demand; demand goes down, prices go down. Oil has fluctuated so much during the 21st century and has always settled in at a reasonable price. I believe those that drive gas vehicles will be just fine, plus many of us have vehicles we’d rather not part with. The biggest reason I believe this is because the oil production in the US has skyrocketed due to several things including horizontal drilling and fracking in the 21st century and that has led to the US producing more oil than ever. I don’t see that changing. And now that the US is in the front row in terms of benefiting from Venezuelan oil production, once things settle down in the Middle East we will be better off. The only wild card is who/which countrie(s) have control over the Iranian oil and Hormuz. I remember the wild swing from 2008-2016 when a gallon of gas went from $1.85 to around $4.11 and settled back down again after 2016. Gas will come back down, we just have to be patient and follow the advice of Alfred E. Newman: “what? Me worry”? I also feel that the mainstream media puts too much emphasis on the temporary high gas prices; but their agenda is driven by getting as many butts in EVs as they can. Tomorrow is always a brighter day. Enjoy it!

 

[rforbes]

Yay. the worst of both worlds. if Scout can pull off what they say, they are going to pummel jeep in the off-road world.

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