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I dunno - with an 8spd auto and a torque curve as fat as it sound like it’ll be, the 2.0 might not be doing as much work @80mph as you’d think...
Hasn’t surprised sofar, don’t think that this is going to be any different, just like it didn’t destroy the 3.6 in highway MPG under mild EPA testing. Again, it takes a lot of effort to overcome drag, so none of them will be resting while trying to do 75.
Ecoboosts have a similarly flattish and fattish torque curve and display the same issue with real world highway mileage, and the F-series is nowhere near as much of a parachuted-brick as the Wrangler at highway speed, and off boost those are big NA engines too that should be able to handle highway speed without breaking a sweat.

It would also be interesting to see how the Hurricane would perform in the city without the BSG’s contribution which likely plays a big role in that number too. I am looking forward to seeing next year’s numbers with both engines benefiting from the BSG.
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Can you tell me what is BSG?
BSG = Belt Starter Generator.

It's a mild hybrid system that does a little bit of regenerative breaking and a little bit of boost to the engine off of a start. Helps with engine stop/start.
 

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Once you factor in passengers, throw on some weight with steel bumpers, rails and larger tires the 2.0 T will probably begin to struggle.
 

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So it's more than just the stop/start at a red light when the engine shuts off to save fuel? I thought it was just a fancy name for the stop/start feature, definitely interesting so there must be another hybrid type of small battery if it's going to store energy from the regenerative braking correct? If not how does that energy get put back into power? Thanks
 

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Once you factor in passengers, throw on some weight with steel bumpers, rails and larger tires the 2.0 T will probably begin to struggle.
Nope if anything I would say the opposite as torque is torque with all that extra weight you are adding the V6 will struggle more than the turbo 4 because it has more torque and most of it down low in the rev band which is where you need it the most to get all that extra weight moving.
 

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Nope if anything I would say the opposite as torque is torque with all that extra weight you are adding the V6 will struggle more than the turbo 4 because it has more torque and most of it down low in the rev band which is where you need it the most to get all that extra weight moving.
They both will struggle. Unfortunately the diesel will ring in near $50K and I'll just have to take the Pentastar fuel hit and torque deficit
 

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First for the BSG it’s 48V Li-ion battery.

This may help you;
https://jalopnik.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-upcoming-48-volt-1790364465

Nope if anything I would say the opposite as torque is torque with all that extra weight you are adding the V6 will struggle more than the turbo 4 because it has more torque and most of it down low in the rev band which is where you need it the most to get all that extra weight moving.
Nope.
Highway mileage and weight do not improve with the turbo, this is also seen in the EcoBoost which when towing inverts the MPG advantage, despite having all that torque down low. To overcome wind air and rolling resistance you need HP, so the turbo may need to be on boost to combat drag at speed.

This quote is from C & D’s June 2016 look into Turbo vs NA, and describes the issue specifically, it has the power to impress, but expecting stellar fuel economy when pushed is overly optimistic.

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Don't forget air conditioning is a $1200 upgrade ( JK ) , 3:73 gears, $700, hard top $900. Since the $1200 Destination Fee is unavoidable, it should be factored into that " Base" price. If A/C was included in the Base Price, that would be a big "help".
How many are sold without A/C , any real numbers ?
 

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[QUOconditioning"Armycop, post: 29898, member: 10794"]Sport (base) model has steel wheels, manual locks/windows and you can't order most of the option packages. You can only get the hardtop and automatic for options. Sport S has alloy wheels, keyless entry, power windows, tinted rear windows, and you can get more option packages.[/QUOTE]
Sport Base doesn't include A/C, I think the "S" does. You can order 3:73 gearing, at a $700 upcharge for the Sport. JL standard now 3:45, JK 3:21. A/C is $1200 upgrade I think...
 

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So it's more than just the stop/start at a red light when the engine shuts off to save fuel? I thought it was just a fancy name for the stop/start feature, definitely interesting so there must be another hybrid type of small battery if it's going to store energy from the regenerative braking correct? If not how does that energy get put back into power? Thanks
Yes, there is a second 48V battery in addition to the standard 12 battery. You don't necessarily need it to have start/stop, it just helps make it work more smoothly.
 

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One caveat - when Jeep released the first pictures of the JL, there was an error made on the Jeep page that showed a 2018 JLU with a starting price of $30,445. This was removed pretty quick but it is possible that the pricing has changed somewhat since these screen prints from early August.
 

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If the pricing you posted is correct, these are the differences with the JK:

2-Door (JK / JL / Difference)
Sport - $23,995 / $26,195 / $2,200
Sport S - $26,995 / $29,095 / $2,100
Sahara - $30,445 / N/A
Rubicon - $33,645 / $36,395 / $2,750

4 - Door (JKU/JLU/Difference)
Sport - $27,895 / $29,995 / $2,100
Sport S - $31,095 / $33,195 / $2,100
Sahara - $34,295 / $36,995 / $2,700
Rubicon - $37,445 / $40,195 / $2,750
With the MSRP of the JK, the engine was included in the price. From what the OP posted, it looks like you have to add $2000-3500 on top of the MSRP you listed per vehicle, to get an actual base price.

Sport/Sport S 2.0: $4,100 increase
Sahara 2.0: $4,700 increase
Rubicon 2.0: $4,750 increase

Sport/Sport S 3.6: $5,600 increase
Sahara 3.6: $6,200 increase
Rubicon 3.6: $6,250 increase

Based on the JK coming with the 3.6, the increase should be based on the JL 3.6 pricing. This is a ridiculous increase, even if you subtract the $1,400 it would cost for an auto with a JK, you are looking at a $4,200-$4,800 price hike compared to the JK......
 

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If there is an upcharge for the 3.6 that has been standard equipment for the last decade...that's damn ridiculous.
 

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With the MSRP of the JK, the engine was included in the price. From what the OP posted, it looks like you have to add $2000-3500 on top of the MSRP you listed per vehicle, to get an actual base price.

Sport/Sport S 2.0: $4,100 increase
Sahara 2.0: $4,700 increase
Rubicon 2.0: $4,750 increase

Sport/Sport S 3.6: $5,600 increase
Sahara 3.6: $6,200 increase
Rubicon 3.6: $6,250 increase

Based on the JK coming with the 3.6, the increase should be based on the JL 3.6 pricing. This is a ridiculous increase, even if you subtract the $1,400 it would cost for an auto with a JK, you are looking at a $4,200-$4,800 price hike compared to the JK......

This is what I was nervous about. Im thinking with options from the factory, a diesel, and then all the aftermarket goodies ($5-10k) we're looking at a $55k+ Wrangler. As much as Ive loved my Wranglers in the past I cant help but thinking at that price point a Raptor is looking like a much more reasonable vehicle.
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