mtbjeep
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This times a million!Go test drive a Tacoma with the 6 speed auto and you’ll fall in love with the way your wrangler performs.
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This times a million!Go test drive a Tacoma with the 6 speed auto and you’ll fall in love with the way your wrangler performs.
He made a pic of him posting as the OP his profile pic. I don't know why you'd do that, but it confuses people in a bunch of threads (I guess I answered my own question).
You want power and performance. Gonna hand it to you on a platter:Between the abysmal gearing on my sport/6-speed and the limp dick torque of the pentastar, my Jeep always feels sluggish unless you're pumping the eurobeat and shifting at redline constantly like a maniac.
My soul wants to add the center force clutch and a supercharger kit. But that's pushing $10k just in parts with obvious reliability concerns.
Regearing seems like a good idea. A few grand and would "unlock" 5th and 6th gear. As it stands I rarely use more than 4th gear. I have no desire for adding larger tires though, so a 4.88 or something sounds kinda stupid, and going to a 3.73 or 4.10 doesn't sound like it's enough change to be worth the cost when you're not actually gaining power, just cheesing the torque multiplication math.
Just sell my jeep and buy a 2.0L? I really don't like the 2.0L, but it definitely puts down more low-end torque and would definitely be cheaper than a supercharger. Transferring my mods is going to be a pain in the ass though, and it's tough to find lower trim jeeps with the tow/aux switch panel option that I consider necessary equipment.
I'd really consider swapping into an ecodiesel but I don't have drive patterns that jive well with modern diesel engines. Diesel is also ludicrously expensive here.
Those seem the only reasonable options that I can think of. With another clutch fire recall going out in a month and likely no proper fix maybe I just wait for the new 4Runner and enjoy my jeep as-is until then? If they dunk the hybridmax engine in there with 400lb-ft of torque and no faffing around with a plug like the 4xe it sounds like a winner.
Yous guys' thoughts?
Our 2019 2.0t was a half second slower 0-60 on the same tires going from 4.10s to 5.38s. The torque multiplication in a set gear sounds all well and good, unless you have an AUTO. Torque to the wheels is torque to the wheels. The engine doesn't know how it gets there and won't effect driveability or mileage in my experience. 5.13s in 8th gear are nearly identical to stock 4.10s in 7th. The engine doesn't know the difference. 1st gear on take offs sure, but how much time do you spend there? A few seconds on the average drive.Gears = Torque MULTIPLICATION
In other words more torque to the tire... The engine isnt producing any more, but there is more at the tire... 456 to 538 is 17% more torque to the tire.. Where you will most definitely feel the torque!
No other way to get that level of torque gains at the tires with your v6 for the $2k gear change.
0-60 should also be reduced. But given the auto can just stay in a lower gear with the stock ratio for longer effectively giving the same net gearing, total acceleration gains will be minimal. But it will be much more responsive (like 17% in the example above) in a set gear due to the multiplication.
Yes. It is called fuel economy mandates.There’s a reason we went ...... to 8 and 10 speeds.
^^^^ someone who gets it.Our 2019 2.0t was a half second slower 0-60 on the same tires going from 4.10s to 5.38s. The torque multiplication in a set gear sounds all well and good, unless you have an AUTO. Torque to the wheels is torque to the wheels. The engine doesn't know how it gets there and won't effect driveability or mileage in my experience. 5.13s in 8th gear are nearly identical to stock 4.10s in 7th. The engine doesn't know the difference. 1st gear on take offs sure, but how much time do you spend there? A few seconds on the average drive.
If you’re taking a snapshot at one given rpm. That’s not at all how a drivetrain works. Everything you change behind the engine effect's how it can perform. We’re not driving 15,000 horsepower top fuel cars and not many people drive around in low range either. Try to stay relative to the OP’s topic.A car can not tell the difference between shorter diff gearing or shorter transmission gears. It is all the same.
Why would you want to only use 7 gears when 8 are available? It’s all about efficiency with what we have to use. Excessive slipping of the clutch and/or torque converter creates additional heat. Hey, you guys keep doing things your way. Just a shame you’ve so passionate about being wrong.^^^^ someone who gets it.
The torque converter already provides much shorter gearing in 1st on take off for those with the Auto. Those with manual can slip the clutch for a similar effect - but I hear the clutch will then blow up
The above quotes should be a sticker placed on the passenger side. I would certainly feel more pep when enjoying top off views...Cheapest way for more pep is to reduce the weight by taking the top and doors off.