Suspension sagging due to added weight - spacer lift or.....?

[SlickRickMotoADV]

The +44 is correct actually. I saw something earlier showing+37 but I’m thinking someone was wrong! I’m running +20 offset and have about 1” of poke and zero rubbing.

You're right near what AEV claims to be the safe limit of +25ET, though there are other factors of course.

The smallest wheel spacer out there for the JL is 1.75", which would push my wheels WAY out. Visually, I don't like that. Is that a pill I should just swallow and be done with it to enable myself to get the AEV kit? IDK.

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[jhackathorne]

You're right near what AEV claims to be the safe limit of +25ET, though there are other factors of course.

The smallest wheel spacer out there for the JL is 1.75", which would push my wheels WAY out. Visually, I don't like that. Is that a pill I should just swallow and be done with it to enable myself to get the AEV kit? IDK.

I would not do spacers if you don’t want the poke. I’d change LCA’s.

 

[SlickRickMotoADV]

I would not do spacers if you don’t want the poke. I’d change LCA’s.

What do the LCAs have to do with it?

 

[jhackathorne]

On the fronts they are mostly straight from factory and the tires rub when at full lock which is why they want more backspace. If the LCA are changed they are moved in/up so when turning you don’t hit it. I have stock rear LCA so not 100% on those, but I imagine aftermarket ones do same.

**edit** looks like rears are the same up/into help with clearance. At least Synergy.

 

[blnewt]

You're right near what AEV claims to be the safe limit of +25ET, though there are other factors of course.

The smallest wheel spacer out there for the JL is 1.75", which would push my wheels WAY out. Visually, I don't like that. Is that a pill I should just swallow and be done with it to enable myself to get the AEV kit? IDK.

@DadJokes has a source for quality 1" spacers, might shoot him a PM for info on them.

 

[SlickRickMotoADV]

On the fronts they are mostly straight from factory and the tires rub when at full lock which is why they want more backspace. If the LCA are changed they are moved in/up so when turning you don’t hit it. I have stock rear LCA so not 100% on those, but I imagine aftermarket ones do same.

Gotcha, makes sense. I'm still not convinced my 33s would hit the arms at all, regardless of lift, but that's a bridge I'd be willing to cross if I came to it. I have the longer Mopar arms on right now, probably with hilariously high caster with this squatting I have going on haha. If I need adjustables, that's ok.
I'm more curious about the "rear right swaybar endlink contacting the wheel" issue. Having to do spacers or buy a new set of wheels/tires would be pretty $$$.

 

[SlickRickMotoADV]

@DadJokes has a source for quality 1" spacers, might shoot him a PM for info on them.

That can't possibly work without grinding the OEM studs. I have sources that have manufactured spacers of various sizes for me in the past for sports cars that I've talked to already. They can do anything from 11mm up to however thick I want, but anything under 1.75" requires OEM stud modification. I'm not willing to cross that bridge yet.

 

[jhackathorne]

@SlickRickMotoADV I’ll take a photo of my rear and post it. I can’t recall exactly how much clearance there is.

 

[azwjowner]

You're right near what AEV claims to be the safe limit of +25ET, though there are other factors of course.

The smallest wheel spacer out there for the JL is 1.75", which would push my wheels WAY out. Visually, I don't like that. Is that a pill I should just swallow and be done with it to enable myself to get the AEV kit? IDK.

I wouldn't get spacers under any circumstances. Venturing far from stock offset wears ball joints, upsets the scrub radius, and increases forces going into the steering.

 

[SlickRickMotoADV]

I wouldn't get spacers under any circumstances. Venturing far from stock offset wears ball joints, upsets the scrub radius, and increases forces going into the steering.

Yeah I hate spacers. Definitely not what I want to do visually or mechanically. I'd probably burn 2.5k on wheels/tires before spending $300 on spacers, not that I want to do either.

 

[jhackathorne]

Attached is both sides. I guess it is likely to rub rear sway bars, but it would be tire only in my case at least. I’ve never had any issues when flexed out so I’m assuming there hasn’t been any damage.

 

[SlickRickMotoADV]

Attached is both sides. I guess it is likely to rub rear sway bars, but it would be tire only in my case at least. I’ve never had any issues when flexed out so I’m assuming there hasn’t been any damage.

What make/model lift is that? Doesn't look like AEV (Company that said it would have fitment issues there). If you're on a rubicon, your axle is also wider and wouldn't have this issue.

Part of me just wants to say fuck it and order the AEV and see what fits and what doesn't. I know that could be a rabbit hole though.

 

[azwjowner]

What make/model lift is that? Doesn't look like AEV (Company that said it would have fitment issues there). If you're on a rubicon, your axle is also wider and wouldn't have this issue.

Part of me just wants to say fuck it and order the AEV and see what fits and what doesn't. I know that could be a rabbit hole though.

If you went with the AEV, could you use the Mopar 2 inch lift rear links instead? Or do the triple rate springs flex so much that anything would hit? https://www.quadratec.com/p/mopar/front-sway-bar-end-link-wrangler-jl-mopar-lift-68306982AA

 

[JEEP4U]

My recommendation is to install the Old Man Emu Springs as indicated by OME representative.

Adjustable links are cheap.

Avoid wheel spacers.

 

[SlickRickMotoADV]

If you went with the AEV, could you use the Mopar 2 inch lift rear links instead? https://www.quadratec.com/p/mopar/front-sway-bar-end-link-wrangler-jl-mopar-lift-68306982AA

No clue. They didn't have any info other than "links will contact". Didn't provide any info for what might work other than space the wheel out. I feel like with enough trial and error that I could find a link that would work though right?

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