Gunfighter
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- P.J.
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- 2021 Jeep Wrangler High Altitude
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Another 10 to 15 years is plenty of time to sell a new engine option and who honestly knows how long it will actually take to build out an electric charging infrastructure every where across rural America?Phasing out ICE by 2030,2035, EVs with torque and range, why invest in something with a limited shelf life,?
Larger displacement engines are taxed more, use more fuel, so how will the company recoup its Investment ?
I agree there's absolutely going to be another motor in the next handful of years and I hope everything doesn't automatically go the way of the 4-cylinder. This is just my opinion but I don't like what the 2.0 does to the sound and feel of the vehicle when the 3.6 is borderline muscular by comparison, especially with its pops and crackles upon manual upshifts on the 8speed. A straight six would be incredible for these rigs if it'd fit.Another 10 to 15 years is plenty of time to sell a new engine option and who honestly knows how long it will actually take to build out an electric charging infrastructure every where across rural America?
Not sure how many Jeep faithfuls around here cross-shop other brands, but both the new Bronco and new Defender already have engine options in the 400HP/TQ range (boosted 6 and supercharged 6-cylinder, iirc) and both are actually available in their 2-door trims. Just makes good business sense to better compete with your closest competitors.
I personally have nothing against electric vehicles, but as long as there's still gas pumps everywhere, it's in my best interest to buy ICE (or hybrid) for the immediate future.
Not available in the 2 door, but the diesel has that power. Well, not the HP, but more than that for TQ. And, frankly, you don't need HP unless you are going to high speed. TQ is what gets you moving. HP keeps you moving faster.Was thinking an eTorque/electric-supercharged Pentastar made the most sense, but whatever it takes to get a ~400HP/TQ ICE Wrangler, especially in the 2-door that's otherwise lacking in engine options.
Electric vehicles are still a pipe dream backed by government subsidies.
I know, Agenda 2030 wants everything to go away in favor of 'sustainable' energy, but it's not going to happen.
Imo, most 6-cylinder engines sound kinda poopy as far as exhaust note goes. The 2.0 Wrangler actually doesn't sound too bad with an aftermarket exhaust, but it's still not the proper tone I'd want from a truck/SUV. The ETS system on my Evo sounds pretty damn good for a 4-cylinder car and the twin-turbo 6-cylinder GT-R sounds downright sinister. Really not sure if it's just displacement, compression ratio or a pig-rich tune that helps make a great tone, but the Pentastar is sorely lacking in that department (again, just my opinion). I'm glad the 2.0 exists as an option for those that want it, but I'd also prefer they keep the 6 and 8-cylinder options for the Wrangler (or better yet, just add the 392 as an option for the 2-door).I agree there's absolutely going to be another motor in the next handful of years and I hope everything doesn't automatically go the way of the 4-cylinder. This is just my opinion but I don't like what the 2.0 does to the sound and feel of the vehicle when the 3.6 is borderline muscular by comparison, especially with its pops and crackles upon manual upshifts on the 8speed. A straight six would be incredible for these rigs if it'd fit.
We had exactly that (a 10" longer wheelbase) with the 2004-2006 Wrangler LJ, aka the original Unlimited. Had that platform sold in better numbers, it might still be with us. Four doors won the day, though.I would absolutely love to see a 2 door Wrangler that's 8-10 inches longer in wheelbase, enabling bigger fuel tank, less comical storage space with the backseats in,...
True enough, but did any of those ideas have the collective will of bureaucracy, in the form of regulations, tax subsides, etc. compelling them to move forward, freely or under threat of sanction?people thought we would have flying cars now, be in another ice age, and be a paperless society by now.