twisty
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- bob
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- Fountain Hills, Arizona
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- 2018 JL Rubicon White
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The last time I went jeeping there was 2001. I did Poison Spider, Golden Spike and one other. It was a LONG day but what a trail!
Fast forward 20 years and I take my freshly masters graduate son with me in my 2018 JLUR with 37s, 4.88's 4 inch lift, more, with my home made offroad trailer.
Found a nice place to camp and next day off to do Hells Revenge. I did it the week before with my dirt bike, and I can tell you the experience was night and day between dirt bike and jeep. The jeep was way more exhilarating.
Boy the place has changed. 20 years ago I saw mostly all jeeps, then other brands, with a good amount of dirt bikes. This time it was 99% razor type rigs, and a smattering of jeeps, and again dirt bikes. The whole time on the trails I saw 3 jeeps. 2 on Hells revenge and 1 on Golden Spike vs probably 50 or more on Hell's and 20 on Spider, Golden trails.
They have taken over.
So I just had to check what the buzz was all about with these Razors. They offered free test rides about a mile from camp so my son and I signed up.
It had a go kart feel and sound to it. Once you hit the gas it took a bit to get going but it was a rocket. Suspension was amazing, a little chuttery on small bumpy stuff but just swallowed up big stuff. They had a pin it section and just wow, down right scary how fast it went.
Would I want one? You bet! But a few things I didnt like about it. Dusty as hell, we had a short 40 minute ride and were coated. Loud. Not all that comfortable.
Would I want to take it on poison spider or Golden Spike, instead of my jeep? No. My jeep is set up pretty well but it was more than that. We had creature comforts galore and to meet any circumstance vs a Razor.
Golden Spike was way harder then what I remember it to be. Last time I did it was in my 97 TJ and made quick work of it with my wife and 2 year old. I dont know if it got harder over the years, or I'm just leery of obstacles now. It went over them easily but every one was like "I have to do THAT?" lol But over some time I was choosing harder lines that I wouldnt do with the TJ. My son wasnt happy about that but became a believer when it would do them.
The bummer for me was in the past when I would do moab solo I would always meet people in other jeeps and we would help each other and get to know one another. It was fun. Not the case this time and was kind of sad. Maybe I was just unlucky and didnt see any when I was out.
The son and I talked about getting a Razor but the Pro's of the jeep just couldnt be ignored. I drove from the house towing a trailer, had ac, tunes, nice ride, decent MPG (14.5) running up and down mountains from AZ to UT. Things that a Razor just couldnt do.
However my son might end up with one. He doesnt want a jeep or any vehicle more geared as such for every day use. He instead would just tow one to moab. That's probably why people get them
Fast forward 20 years and I take my freshly masters graduate son with me in my 2018 JLUR with 37s, 4.88's 4 inch lift, more, with my home made offroad trailer.
Found a nice place to camp and next day off to do Hells Revenge. I did it the week before with my dirt bike, and I can tell you the experience was night and day between dirt bike and jeep. The jeep was way more exhilarating.
Boy the place has changed. 20 years ago I saw mostly all jeeps, then other brands, with a good amount of dirt bikes. This time it was 99% razor type rigs, and a smattering of jeeps, and again dirt bikes. The whole time on the trails I saw 3 jeeps. 2 on Hells revenge and 1 on Golden Spike vs probably 50 or more on Hell's and 20 on Spider, Golden trails.
They have taken over.
So I just had to check what the buzz was all about with these Razors. They offered free test rides about a mile from camp so my son and I signed up.
It had a go kart feel and sound to it. Once you hit the gas it took a bit to get going but it was a rocket. Suspension was amazing, a little chuttery on small bumpy stuff but just swallowed up big stuff. They had a pin it section and just wow, down right scary how fast it went.
Would I want one? You bet! But a few things I didnt like about it. Dusty as hell, we had a short 40 minute ride and were coated. Loud. Not all that comfortable.
Would I want to take it on poison spider or Golden Spike, instead of my jeep? No. My jeep is set up pretty well but it was more than that. We had creature comforts galore and to meet any circumstance vs a Razor.
Golden Spike was way harder then what I remember it to be. Last time I did it was in my 97 TJ and made quick work of it with my wife and 2 year old. I dont know if it got harder over the years, or I'm just leery of obstacles now. It went over them easily but every one was like "I have to do THAT?" lol But over some time I was choosing harder lines that I wouldnt do with the TJ. My son wasnt happy about that but became a believer when it would do them.
The bummer for me was in the past when I would do moab solo I would always meet people in other jeeps and we would help each other and get to know one another. It was fun. Not the case this time and was kind of sad. Maybe I was just unlucky and didnt see any when I was out.
The son and I talked about getting a Razor but the Pro's of the jeep just couldnt be ignored. I drove from the house towing a trailer, had ac, tunes, nice ride, decent MPG (14.5) running up and down mountains from AZ to UT. Things that a Razor just couldnt do.
However my son might end up with one. He doesnt want a jeep or any vehicle more geared as such for every day use. He instead would just tow one to moab. That's probably why people get them
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