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Quick back story bought a 2017 Fleetwood Class A Bounder 33C in 2018, then purchased a 2018 Sahara JL. The Bounder which was the ford V10 and F21 Chassis (which 99% of Gas Class A's use) was rated for 5000lbs towing. You should know that is only a paper rating as that will change as you load gear onto the RV 90% of the time that 5000lb is reduced based on your gear load. Anyway after 1 set of new brakes (burned them up over the 1st mountain pass) on the RV and only getting 4.9mpg towing the wrangler we sold the Class A and bought a Ram 3500 and 40' Montana 5th Wheel. Loved it getting 10+ mpg, problem was 40' 5er was too long for most RV parks and we love to off road when camping requiring us to drive the Jeep separately. I should mention my 2018 JL Sahara was 4950 lbs.
Fast forward 2021, Sold the Montana and Ram 3500 (nice little $18K Covid 19 Profit) Bought a 4xe and currently shopping for a Diesel Pusher (with the Biden Gas cost increase gas RV is 100% out of the question) besides the 4xe is simply too heavy for 90% of gas Motorhomes to tow. I should also mention here in the PNW we cross steep mountain passes most outings.
Took the 4xe to the scales yesterday and it weighed in at 5900lbs (5600 without passengers). I should mention I have 35's Aluminum bumper with a winch, steps and a Diabolical Slipstream enclosure and a few other lightweight mods. Also this weight was with the soft top.
We are actively shopping for a 35'-38' newer Diesel Pusher (DP) and discovering that most of those are on the freightliner chassis many the Allison Transmission and only rated for 5000lbs towing. I thought how can that be the 340hp and 360hp Diesels and the freightliner chassis is more than capable of towing well over 5000lbs. After further investigation the limiting factor is the Allison Transmissions are the issue. I should mention that most 40' plus DP's have the 8k-lbs and 10k-lbs ratings and no problem but the under 40' DP's not so much.
Simply put that extra 800lbs of battery and electric motors is a game changer. You can maybe squeak buy with NO mods or upgrades to your 4xe but you will still be stressing or near the limits the Tow vehicle powertrain. Long Story short there is a very short list of Motor homes diesel or gas under 38' that can tow a 4xe (maybe 30% of DP and less than 10% of Gassers.
With that said I can remove the spare -90lbs, I have a set of Bestop 2-piece Fabric doors -150lbs (replace hard doors), tow with less than 1/2 tank fuel -90lbs, Store slipstream. removable parts in RV -40lbs. that puts me down to 5270lbs plus tow bar weight.
bottom line if you want to be legal with most sub 40' Motorhomes it will be tough with a 4xe. Weight your RV and TOAD as many states are cracking down of over weight TOADS especially if in an accident.
Fast forward 2021, Sold the Montana and Ram 3500 (nice little $18K Covid 19 Profit) Bought a 4xe and currently shopping for a Diesel Pusher (with the Biden Gas cost increase gas RV is 100% out of the question) besides the 4xe is simply too heavy for 90% of gas Motorhomes to tow. I should also mention here in the PNW we cross steep mountain passes most outings.
Took the 4xe to the scales yesterday and it weighed in at 5900lbs (5600 without passengers). I should mention I have 35's Aluminum bumper with a winch, steps and a Diabolical Slipstream enclosure and a few other lightweight mods. Also this weight was with the soft top.
We are actively shopping for a 35'-38' newer Diesel Pusher (DP) and discovering that most of those are on the freightliner chassis many the Allison Transmission and only rated for 5000lbs towing. I thought how can that be the 340hp and 360hp Diesels and the freightliner chassis is more than capable of towing well over 5000lbs. After further investigation the limiting factor is the Allison Transmissions are the issue. I should mention that most 40' plus DP's have the 8k-lbs and 10k-lbs ratings and no problem but the under 40' DP's not so much.
Simply put that extra 800lbs of battery and electric motors is a game changer. You can maybe squeak buy with NO mods or upgrades to your 4xe but you will still be stressing or near the limits the Tow vehicle powertrain. Long Story short there is a very short list of Motor homes diesel or gas under 38' that can tow a 4xe (maybe 30% of DP and less than 10% of Gassers.
With that said I can remove the spare -90lbs, I have a set of Bestop 2-piece Fabric doors -150lbs (replace hard doors), tow with less than 1/2 tank fuel -90lbs, Store slipstream. removable parts in RV -40lbs. that puts me down to 5270lbs plus tow bar weight.
bottom line if you want to be legal with most sub 40' Motorhomes it will be tough with a 4xe. Weight your RV and TOAD as many states are cracking down of over weight TOADS especially if in an accident.
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