DavidArmen
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Maybe different in Canada but trading in a leased vehicle was easier than a purchased one here in AZ due to the way taxes worked on it. Would have cost more if I had bought it and traded in same time period of two years.If I read correctly, the lease is for 5 years? No way. Plus you’re comparing a 4 door diesel/auto to a 2 door gas/manual. Which do you really want? Buy once, cry once. Get what you really want.
If you’re talking about going electric in a few years, then having a Jeep that you purchased will make a trade easier, as Wranglers have such a stupidly high resale value. Plus, I would wait until the electric is on the market for at least 2 years. Let the guys who want to pay a premium to be first get them, then look at how they perform and what issues pop up. My guess is that a brick shaped, heavy Wrangler will be lucky to go 100 miles on a charge in real world driving.
Similar in Canada. Plus, it'd be my work vehicle so I can deduct that from my taxes when I lease it (not when I buy it).Maybe different in Canada but trading in a leased vehicle was easier than a purchased one here in AZ due to the way taxes worked on it. Would have cost more if I had bought it and traded in same time period of two years.
Agree tho— wouldn’t buy a first model year electric Wrangler. But I understand the desire to swap around vehicles. Some people prefer doing that and are flat out not interested in long term vehicle ownership.
I know they are not taking 4-5 months to build. I'm saying they're taking 4-5 months to get here, in Quebec.Going in to factory order a gasoline —I assume— Willys and being offered to lease a diesel instead, is like going to a restaurant, ordering a Caesar salad and getting a Yorkshire pudding because it is the special of the day.
Besides the different motor, purchasing and leasing are apples and oranges.
Unless you can write off the lease through your business, I’d stay away from leasing. Especially a Wrangler.
Whatever money you think you are saving in fuel, in the long-term you will be paying more by leasing.
PS - JLs are not taking 4-5 months to build.
Well, that’s what happens when you start a thread. They grow legs and get a life of their own...I know they are not taking 4-5 months to build. I'm saying they're taking 4-5 months to get here, in Quebec.
Besides, I already said i'm walking away from the deal.
Hi there, bonjour.
So. Some of you know I just ordered a '21 2DR Willys. But my dealer just called me to make a very, very, very interesting offer.
Instead of waiting about 4-5 months for the car to get here, he offered me to lease the Ecodiesel Sport Altitude demo he has at the dealership.
All in all, the bi-weekly payments would be about the same (3-4 $CAN more, nothing to care about).
I know some of you own diesels. I do about 50 miles as a daily commute. Plus, I have a city house that I must take care of in Quebec City, at about 200 miles from home (every two weeks or so).
I also know an oil change costs a s*** ton of money on the Diesel. But with my calculations, I think it'll cost me less in fuel. Insurances would be about the same.
What do you think? What else should I calculate?
Thanks for you input, merci.
Sorry to disappoint but jeep wave doesn't apply in Canukistan.... straight from the page you linkedAccording to Jeep Canada website, you do? https://www.jeep.ca/en/jeep-wave
Solid. It’s a Fiat motor with a short and mixed history - look it up. I wouldn't touch it with a stick. I will never buy another diesel, own a MB 3.0. Diesel fuel is more expensive now, for starters. The rather old saying of getting better gas mileage is countered by the more expensive fuel. However - the real problem is one freak’n emissions repair will immediately wipe out any savings you convinced yourself you were getting, if not your entire bank account. Will be interesting to see what people say about these motors here on this forum when they start reaching 60k+ miles in large numbers.Besides, I already said i'm walking away from the deal.
That was exactly my concern. There is a youtube video buy a guy that works at a jeep dealership, where he points out the expensive oil changes, the overly complex exhaust/emissions, the tight engine bay and the lack of track record for the engines all as concerns. these concerns reasonated with me, and it's why despite wanting the torque, and better mileage, I passed on the engine. everyone has to weigh their comfort level, and decide where they land.Solid. It’s a Fiat motor with a short and mixed history - look it up. I wouldn't touch it with a stick. I will never buy another diesel, own a MB 3.0. Diesel fuel is more expensive now, for starters. The rather old saying of getting better gas mileage is countered by the more expensive fuel. However - the real problem is one freak’n emissions repair will immediately wipe out any savings you convinced yourself you were getting, if not your entire bank account. Will be interesting to see what people say about these motors here on this forum when they start reaching 60k+ miles in large numbers.
Yea, I didn't see that at first. I just quickly read, Complimentary Maintenance for a Limited Time, and thought it was for all Jeeps in CanadaSorry to disappoint but jeep wave doesn't apply in Canukistan.... straight from the page you linked
"Who is eligible for Jeep WaveTM?
Beginning with the 2021 model year, the All-New Jeep® Grand Cherokee L is automatically enrolled into the Jeep WaveTM program."