wibornz
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Then we will have to agree to disagree. A full lock turn on aired down tires transmits way more stress that a turn on the streets at speeds. Nobody is turning a Jeep in 4wd to full lock at 60 mph. Being in 4l vs 4h on the street does not create more stress or less stress on the components as related to binding. Vehicles are driven in 4h all the time with out damage. The binding happens at low speed. The binding is when the vehicle does not have enough slack in the drivetrain to compensate for the different speeds of the tires while making the turn.Meh, we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. The difference of wheel speed on the street at higher speeds when binding occurs will cause a lot of force to be transmitted with nowhere to go, there will be a lot of stress transferred to the driveline as the wheel speeds are forced to equalize. From what I've heard of Moab/Rubicon, you can walk a lot of the trails faster than you can drive them (I've never been). That doesn't sound like you'd need to take a turn at high speeds in 4L, or even be able to go higher speeds on most of it so some binding while making tight turns doesn't sound like it would have anywhere near the amount of force that throwing your Jeep into a turn at street speeds and having all that force bind up the components. Climbing difficult obstacles (hard, high traction obstacles) will not cause binding like that either when done correctly/in control. Yeah, if people are flying over things spinning tires and bouncing axles up and down without really being in good control, that causes its own stresses.
FYI, I spend pretty much every weekend up in the mountains in 4L all day. I'm not trying to say we need to baby these things, or faulting anyone for doing what they want with their Jeep. I was just point out that binding up on the street on pavement is not the same thing as taking tight turns on a trail in 4L and binding. There's way more force behind it on the street (or more exactly, at higher speeds where the tires can't break traction). I'm also still not getting why people are not disengaging 4L for higher speed sections of trail (that they also need to make a high speed, tight turn on?..), but to each their own.
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