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I know they cost more but HR sells LEDs for the Fog & Reverse lights.
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I think I'm going to give the Beamtech Headlights a try though.
I little more for me but still much less than the Supernovas. My one concern is the chatter about LED not being warm enough to melt snow while driving. Im in the north East (S.Ontario) and we have plenty of wet accumulating snow.
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Doesn't exist although those that have done it will defend it to their death. The reflector isn't made for LED or HID. Scattered light that may blind oncoming drivers. Won't pass vehicle inspection if you have one in your state.
actually, I'm going to call BS on this post: after considerable research, there ARE LED bulbs that will work just fine with factory reflectors without excessive light scatter: I have them in my headlights (h13) and fogs (h8) in my pickup. they replaced aftermarket HID kits & there is a night and day difference between the amount of light scatter of the styles.
basically, I"ll let you know the style to avoid at all cost & the one that you should be looking for.
Primarily, and this goes for most led replacement bulbs, avoid at all costs, the ones with the diodes completely surrounding the bulb: this is where all the scatter comes from & with these type of bulbs, cannot be prevented.
the type to look for is the type that are more flat with led chips that are basically back-to-back: and the closer they are together, the better light pattern/less scatter. one of the reasons that this style works is that the chips are aligned consistent with the position of the factory bulb's filament (the filaments in each style of bulb are "tuned" per se to the reflector, so when you align the chips with the height of the filament & then direct the light from the chips to the sides, it creates a more factory style beam pattern with less scatter)
when I had my HID'S in, there wasn't a time that went by, even during the day that I didn't get flashed at least once: once I switched out to the proper led bulbs, I have yet to be flashed (unless I accidentally hit the switch for my 54" light bar & don't realize it :facepalm:).
I have had my led's in my truck for the past 3 years & they're still as bright as they ever were & without the scatter, far better than even my HID's). pics are of the style I'm running in my truck with absolutely zero scatter:
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Back in the JK forum there was a photometric specialist that did extensive testing with a range of bulbs for the Wrangler and using the same equipment for light measurement that bulb manfacturers used. His conclusion was there wasn't an acceptable bulb design in the Jeep reflector. Could some giant leap in design have been made in the last few years? Possible. But the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety rated the factory halogen and led lights in the JL as poor so I would say not very likely. Think I'll go with the experts findings rather than your anecdotal opinion.
 

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Back in the JK forum there was a photometric specialist that did extensive testing with a range of bulbs for the Wrangler and using the same equipment for light measurement that bulb manfacturers used. His conclusion was there wasn't an acceptable bulb design in the Jeep reflector. Could some giant leap in design have been made in the last few years? Possible. But the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety rated the factory halogen and led lights in the JL as poor so I would say not very likely. Think I'll go with the experts findings rather than your anecdotal opinion.
What scatter pattern are you seeing in the LED replacement bulbs that is no good? Is it the horizontal or vertical? The reason I ask, is that my cutoff vertically is as good if not better than the halogen. Horizontal scatter imo doesn’t mean too much regarding oncoming traffic. Who knows, maybe technology has made a leap in the last few years, but I am impressed with the LED bulbs I purchased.
 

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What scatter pattern are you seeing in the LED replacement bulbs that is no good? Is it the horizontal or vertical? The reason I ask, is that my cutoff vertically is as good if not better than the halogen. Horizontal scatter imo doesn’t mean too much regarding oncoming traffic. Who knows, maybe technology has made a leap in the last few years, but I am impressed with the LED bulbs I purchased.
It will vary based on the reflector. For vehicles with halogen the reflector is designed to work with the light pattern of the bulb it uses. Leds do not have the same 360 degree pattern of a halogen so the reflection is going to be different. I'm just going by what some experts have tested and said. Having been an engineer that is the way I was trained instead of looking at a pattern on a garage door.
 

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Older thread, I know, but I just did the Beamtech’s and Switchback fogs and had a realization I should have correlated but completely overlooked.

LED’s produce a ton of spurious RF.

I have a 2m, 70cm, 10m and CB radio in my Jeep. The noise floor on the 10m and CB spikes from 0 S units to about 4-5 with the Beamtechs on. A very ‘mechanical’ sounding static on AM and SSB. Nothing the auto squelch can’t handle, but it’s something I completely forgot about in my excitement to go to better lighting. Not all LED’s are made the same, my Rigid D-SS cubes don’t make any noise at all (better shielding), but the inexpensive LED units are noisy. Just something to keep in mind.

Light output is greatly increased with the beamtechs though. Clean cut off, no scatter. I parked myself on a country road, and walked 50 yards in front of the Jeep, and squatted down in the oncoming lane to get my eyes to the level of someone in a compact car, no more light coming from the housings above the cut off than from the halogen bulbs they replaced. Very pleased. Curious how long they’ll last with no fan and contained within a sealed area.

The Switchback white/ amber LEDs (made by “Alla”) were defective. Only one produced light as it should have, SIGNIFICANTLY more than the factory bulb, while the other was very dim. I didn’t even leave them in long enough to see them at night, sent right back to Amazon and requested a direct replacement. I’m hoping their cut off is just as defined as the beamtechs, because they’re insanely bright.....welding arc bright. If the cut off isn’t as good as the factory setup they might just have to be off road only. Not sure how long they’ll last either. I have an aftermarket bumper and the back of the housing is totally exposed to spray from the front tires. They don’t have fans, but do have a separate in-line resistor that looks to be snapped together. No idea if they made those water tight or not, but I was able to tuck those up out of the way on top of the frame rails. At $50 they’re worth the risk to roll the dice on reliability. Hopefully the replacements are functional.

EDIT: the second batch of fogs showed up. They actually work this time. Again, curious as to how long since they’re exposed to wheel spray. The white elements are insanely bright, a bit more intense than the headlights. Decent cut off, and a very wide beam. They throw as much or more light than the low beams, but in a wider area in front of the Jeep up to about where the headlight beam starts on the pavement. Color matches the Beamtechs, and they supplement them perfectly. There is no way of telling where the fog beam ends and the low beams start on the pavement, they just blend right into one another when both are on. No hot spots. The amber element, being its in a slightly different position, throws higher. Less defined of a cut off on a wall, and from 20 feet the cutoff is about 3” higher than the white cut off. When standing in front of the Jeep by about 30 yards and squatting to get my head at the height of someone in a compact car, the white beam, while appearing brighter than the cleaner beam pattern of the low beams, is still not dazzling or distracting. The amber beam, being it throws higher with more scatter, is pretty obnoxious. So the amber beam will be used only in fog/ heavy rain on road with no oncoming traffic, or off road. The white beam is perfectly fine on road and not a distraction to other drivers.

fogs are aimed as low as mechanically possible, and mounted in a Quadratec QRC bumper. There might be more adjustment available in the factory bumper. I could also shim the mounts to get more downward elevation, but the white beams are just where they need to be, and I like the Amber’s up a bit more where they are for fog/ rain.

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I have the diode dynamics. Had to wire in a resistor on the blinker wire but I believe the new ones come with it installed already. Yes you will either need a flash or resistor. Here’s how mine looks with the DD.

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Hey Jason, your lights look great. I am trying to achieve the same look so I have some questions. I have a 2018 JL Sport (factory halogens). My questions are: did you start with factory LED or halogen? Which halo headlights did you go with in this pic? Do you get halo DRLs in the auto position? If so, did you fuse tap or how did you make it happen? Thanks in advance!
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