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i thought there will be a soft top option?
There still could be.. No word or visual verification. But sources have said the rag top could be in two parts.. the first or main part would be located over the seating area and consisting of a power current type retaining system which is very similar to those on the Older Jeep Liberty. While the second rag top would be located as an alternative back window, folding down either manually or powered. In essence the rear rag top would look like the typically folded over rag top as seen on some JK's today.
@Administrator Do you have one like this that shows the soft top?
I've heard this too and I bet that windshield glass just pops down and the pillar frame stays. Otherwise you're looking at either a fixed roof or no rearview mirror (both of which are not likely).
Personally I would be ok with the roll cage. It's not much different than the current sport bar and will make the roof lighter and easier to remove. Question is if the roll cage would be for both soft and hard top..
Backup camera law is dumb and so is FCA if it gets mounted to the spare. Many other places to mount (several of which would be obstructed by the curtains).
The running boards are...well...running boards. It's a Jeep, not a VanDura! For the love of Bantam. Seriously, those things are hideous.
On the 5 year wait...it took about that long to get a good interior in the JK, as well as replace the 3.8L minivan engine with the pentastar. Both worth waiting for. The JL will evolve after a few years. To each their own.
It's not made to drive around town or highways folded down. But anyone who hasn't tried off roading with windshield down is missing out! That's true open air Jeeping. The air, dirt, mud, bugs, whatever hitting you directly in the face adds so much to the experience. It's like open top + doorless driving on steroids So like others here I hope they make it easier to fold up and down. It would add a lot to owner's experiences and give the Wrangler even more utility.
The framing is similar to the sports bar.
I hope the first bar doesn't keep hitting the back of my head like in the JK ! Make more leg and headroom for us tall people please !
Think of how many pro athletes want to buy these and drive them with the seat all the way back so their legs are comfortable. Well in the JK, the first bar connecting the two B-pillars is placed too low and too forward where the back of my head hits it in a terribly uncomfortable way.
Since NBA star Paul George was used in an ad campaign, bring him in and let him help make the ergonomics better for us tall people !
This makes me happy! Much happier than if we were going to get some kind of thicker roof structure.
Update! We can now confirm that the JL Wrangler will retain its folding windshield.
A supplier source has sent us this cropped image of an unpublished photo (top image) which shows a hinge at the bottom of the JL Wrangler's windshield. The image is small, but the hinge is clearly visible and supports what some sharp-eyed viewers spotted in the recent spy photos (bottom image).
I would like to see a 2 door the next time we get new spy photos
Kudos to Jeep engineers for finding a unique way to keep a Wrangler hallmark intact.
I can live with that. Will this frame be there for both hard and soft tops?
Hi new guy here, love the site-just want to add my 2 cents.
The first thing I thought of when seeing the grab bars was a roll cage. The JK cages look just like that along the A pillar and windshield but of course you have to build around the original frame. That's one big reason a factory cage will be welcome.
Too many of the bolt on cages are band aid solutions for a weak factory structure and require cutting the dash and other areas to install. The "real" cages that give you peace of mind for the hardest of trails are either full custom ones or a full replacement cage which requires welding etc.
I just hope the handles are not welded on and can be swapped or removed. Compare these 2 cages/handles:
Yea there hasn't been a sighting since last Summer! Had to search the homepage archive for this: http://www.jlwranglerforums.com/for...-8-speed-auto-and-other-details-confirmed.97/
Wonder why it's all been JLU prototypes out testing and no JL.
The grab handle design and location in the spy photos remind me of the Jeep Liberty KJ (1st gen) and Commander
Pardon my ignorance but doesn't the JK's windshield fold down also? Is there no hinge?
Where else would you place the backup camera? With so many people removing the top and replacing bumpers, the only area for it to be usable is in the middle of the spare. I'm guessing it would just be a bracket on the tailgate like on some of the JK aftermarket rear camera mounts