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Ford also does a great job when it comes to engineering and making vehicles with superb capability. Don't count the Bronco out, yet.

CGI vs RL. I'll go RL everytime. :)

I dunno. They look pretty round to me...

True. I'm always thinking Ford designers are going to do the right thing and look to the original Bronco for inspiration for the new design. If they don't find a way to bring that classic look into the future (and let's be honest, this is the generation of Bronco most salivate over) it's going...

I don't know that anyone else has noticed this, but in the spy shots where you can make out the headlights, they actually look dimensionally larger over the headlights on the JK/ JKU.

I feel your pain and totally agree. I'm 6'5" with a size 15 shoe and a "36 inseam. You're too short to be able to relate, obviously.

I wouldn't be surprised if the diesel came in at around that figure in the JL. I'm sure pricing will continue along the lines of the JK, give or take a thousand or so. I don't see them adding too much else in the way of features, but perhaps improving features that add value to the...

That's a biggie. Another thing I forgot to mention is that it's almost guaranteed Ford will complicate the hell out of the four-wheel-drive system as where Jeep will (hopefully and from the looks of it) continue to offer a manual lever. At this end of the vehicle spectrum, less is always more...

Dude, you're drowning in that Kool-Aid. And I'm sorry to tell you, you don't have it figured out as well as you think. Ford isn't exactly a crash strapped company. With products like the Raptor, I doubt the Bronco will be as half-assed a truck as you suggest. As is, the Everest matches the...

Link?

That's super presumptuous. The FJ shared platforms with other Toyota vehicles and it still managed to be pretty capable off road. It's like people are trying to call the score when the game hasn't even been played yet. Patience.

The headlights actually look proportionally bigger over the JK/ JKU on the actual prototypes.

Sign. Me. Up. Well done.

Have you considered that maybe they're underneath all the camo? Or not... I think we should all just stop trying to figure it out and let things play out however they will. Whatever the case, I don't suspect we'll be seeing a JK on the Jeep stand at NAIAS '17.

I really hate the title of this thread. Every time I glance at the trending thread topic headline it messes with my head for .05 seconds.

Just remembered reading this article last year on Jalopnik with info from a dealer rep who attended the FCA dealer meeting in Vegas and saw the JL: "Biggest surprise at the end though was seeing the new 2017 Wrangler. Not a big departure from the JK, but I’d say it shares nothing with the JK."...

Seems like we both agree that that's not a production JL hood.

I'm not sure the bumper completely wraps around looking closely at some of the spy shots. A bit of a gap exists where the fenders and front bumper meet. One of the most telling things is the fact that the rear portion of the three-piece top was held down by zip ties which would indicate to me...

I just hope it doesn't look like a facelifted JK. This is the Wrangler for the next 10 years, its got to have some sort of visual progression. This is entirely possible while still maintaining its "Jeepness". I'm not sure we can gauge who's complaining since no official pics have been released...

I think you hit the nail on the head. The hood looks like a little too JK to be JL.