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  1. Have you seen this? JL 2018 Extreme Terrain contest

    I think if FCA provided JL/JLU CAD drawings and the vendor then took those and created renderings based off of it which they released to the public, that would be the last time they ever get any info in advance. I'm sure they are required to sign NDA's which would at the least prohibit them...
  2. JLU spotted playing in Silver Lake Sand Dunes

    Seems like it would be for some publicity stunt, except they still haven't removed any more camo :headbang:
  3. JT Wrangler Truck Testing on Public Roads, Shows Spare Tire Mount

    If this is the final bed, departure angle gonna be a bear.
  4. Members old and new -- check in and wave hello!

    Another F150 guy here too :like: I'm in the reverse situation, i plan on keeping my F150 for a long time and can't justify another pickup to the wife... however if it ends up looking like the Crew Chief 715 i will fight tooth and nail lol She likes the idea of adding a JL to the stable for...
  5. New Jeep Wrangler to include gasoline, diesel, mild hybrid, full hybrid

    That's the main thing for me. I love the idea of instant torque but the fear of getting stuck on a trail would be a big one for a full EV. In some parts you won't be able to find a recharging station for a long ways out even after you reach pavement. I think Manley already hinted that they would...
  6. 2018 Wrangler Drops Camo, Shows Backup Camera, Roofline, Grab Handles, Signs of Foldable Windshield

    Surprised there hasn't been any discussion about the big hood bump on the prototype. Are we thinking this is a Hard Rock edition with its raised vented hood?
  7. New Jeep Wrangler to include gasoline, diesel, mild hybrid, full hybrid

    Ford doesn't seem worried. They just announced the F150 is getting a 3.0 Power Stroke Diesel and a hyrid later on in 2020. Good news for the JL and JT diesel, which seems to be following the same path.
  8. New Wrangler Pickup spotted?

    Wow so almost 100K after all is said and done! The Filson edition does look great but I think I'll just wait for Jeep to give us something hopefully in the 30-40 range.
  9. New 2018 Jeep Wrangler JL 2.0L Turbo Engine (Hurricane) FIRST spy photos!

    Some prototypes have shown a hood bump/cowl/scoop spotted underneath their camouflage so that could help prevent heat soak. You can see it clearly here.
  10. New Wrangler Pickup spotted?

    Looks great from this angle. How much is the conversion? They just convert it from a base JKU I assume?
  11. 2018 Wrangler Images Revealed At Dealer Event! JT Pickup Previewed?

    I second that. Every one pictured there is just a refreshed model. The pickup is going to be held close to the vest and I think they'll give it visual separation from the standard Wrangler.
  12. 2018 Jeep Wrangler Production Grille and (and LED Headlights?) Exposed!

    Huge vertical grill with a kink.. looking a little like the YJ
  13. 2018 Jeep Wrangler Production Grille and (and LED Headlights?) Exposed!

    Definitely longer front end especially from the front doors to the front wheels. I don't mind the Unlimited getting longer like this but hope they keep the 2 door compact and close to current size.
  14. 2018 Jeep Wrangler (JL / JLU) and 2019 Pickup (JT) Info Specs Compilation

    The plastic bumper ends get damaged upon the slightest damage. Yes they're cheap and disposable, but we wouldn't have to go through the hassle if they gave us steel bumpers from the factory. Unfortunately it seems like we're still getting plastic bumpers with the JL. It gives the company a...
  15. 2018 Wrangler sport bar removed and will get power soft top?

    Just more weight and complexity if they go to a powered retracting soft top. Here's an idea - why not just make the whole thing a soft panel that can be rolled up manually? Or an even bigger soft panel that would cover and button down on the entire roof structure. Still easily removable and...
  16. JL Wrangler vs New Ford Bronco

    I bet the Bronco gets the 3.5 ecoboost. Honestly its the better engine in all these categories f you are comparing it to the 5.0L. 1. Fuel economy 2. Torque 3. HP 4. Towing ability 5. Mod-ability And I dont see the Bronco getting a removable top, maybe only partial. It's never really had full...
  17. New 2018 Jeep Wrangler JL 2.0L Turbo Engine (Hurricane) FIRST spy photos!

    The latest and greatest turbos are much more responsive, even giving good low end torque. But a turbo engine in a Wrangler has even more stringent requirements than a "regular" road car that never sees a track or off road. It's gotta be able to deal with tough conditions that a regular on-road...
  18. 2018 Jeep Wrangler (JL / JLU) and 2019 Pickup (JT) Info Specs Compilation

    Has to be coming. I think the list just includes 'new' things the car will get. Would be a cardinal sin if they abandoned 6sped manual on the Wrangler.
  19. New 2018 Jeep Wrangler JL 2.0L Turbo Engine (Hurricane) FIRST spy photos!

    This is the same high performance 2.0T that will power the Alfa Giulia (not Quadrifoglio model). Doesn't seem like a budget base kinda engine to me if they're using it in the Giulia. My guess is the V6 will be the base engine and the 2.0T the 'upgraded' engine.
  20. New 2018 Jeep Wrangler JL 2.0L Turbo Engine (Hurricane) FIRST spy photos!

    I have my doubts. Tuned to 300hp it will not be more efficient or more affordable IMO. I think they might sell this as an upgrade option.


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